I used this once for an overnight trip, I babied it and keep it folded and rolled per MLD Ron. It still has the creases. 18 ounces. Also included is a custom Bear Paw insert I had made for it and I made it a bit bigger than what MLD sells for more space and higher side protection. You don’t have to take this if not wanted and we can work out a deal around $800 for tent. I haven’t even used Bear Paw yet, approx 35 ounces. And MLD carbon pole made for Supermid. This setup is over $1200.