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@kat_pSep 18, 2017 at 10:17 pm #3491826
Franco DarioliBPL Member
Hard to keep all those people employed manufacturing arms if you don’t have a war ongoing or at least make one or two happen.
there are warehouses full of ploughshares. There are only so many one can use.Sep 22, 2017 at 8:17 pm #3492662
Richard LyonBPL Member
@richardglyonLocale: Bridger Mountains
Thanks for posting.
I spent far more of my senior year in college, 1967-68, figuring out, not completely successfully, how to avoid the draft than I did trying to get into law school. When the Vietnam war finally ended I was then pleased to hear about the MVA – modern volunteer army, i e no draft – as one desirable corollary of an otherwise disastrous and shameful exercise. Now I’m not so sure. With true citizen soldiers, from all walks of life, we had thinking men (and now women) in and out of the service who asked “why” rather than “what now.” I recommend any of the works by Andrew Bacevich, but particularly The New American Militarism, for a thoughtful analysis of this.
Our founding fathers feared a military elite. Among other things that’s why West Point and Annapolis teach a scientific curriculum. But with a permanent military rather than citizen soldiers, what’s to stop another Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, or other foolish and political war?Sep 23, 2017 at 8:14 am #3492727
Todd StoughBPL Member
Richard.. I’m glad we no longer have the draft. If people want to sign up and get paid to fight wars then let them.. The wars will be fought anyway. As we can see from world war 1, then world war 2 and Vietnam, was Korea also draft? The people will not stand up and say no, we just have our lives torn apart and die for no good reason at all. You don’t need a draft, if we are ever truly attacked at home we will just fight, same as all the countries we are at war with. They don’t need to draft people, they see first hand the horror that we bring to them and they grab a rifle or a bomb and do what little they can to try and defend their families.
For the first time in a century we are beginning to see fathers have emotion, they are finally able to connect with their kids and other people. It seemed like generation after generation was emotionally broken. Whether from directly being in a war or from having a Dad that was.
No draft is a good thing.Oct 2, 2017 at 7:18 pm #3494438
That is a thoughtful article, thanks for sharing.
It doesn’t help when we have an atmosphere in the media and society at large that glamorizes and romanticizes war and the military. A society where simply being a member of the military equates to being a hero. What do people really expect?
The truth is there have been plenty of unjust wars the USA has been involved in and waged directly all without a draft and before any of us were alive. Not having a draft didn’t prevent them. Not that there isn’t some merit to that argument, but clearly that in itself isn’t sufficient. Also, none of the drafts the US enacted were ever totally representative of the population. We haven’t addressed the ethical implications of the government using violence to force people to wage its wars.Oct 2, 2017 at 10:06 pm #3494476
Then there is thisOct 2, 2017 at 11:00 pm #3494492
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
I heard that story too Kat, that is sad.
Patriotic symbols like the American flag, national anthem, and pledge of allegiance came into being much later than the Constitution and the beginning of the country. I am a strict constitutionalist and believe these uber patriotic idols are a potentially bad thing. Not that I don’t get a tear in my eye listening to the national anthem. Like the last couple lines “Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?”. I just hate to see people using it to their own political advantage. Like the contest for which political leader can have the biggest American flag lapel pin.Oct 3, 2017 at 2:37 am #3494518
Yeah I remember when that came out, it’s not surprising.
The longer we’re at war the worse it gets.
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