- Sep 1, 2018 at 12:39 am #3554099
I have an Alegro Open Road by Tiffin. They’re supposed to be better than average.
From B Young RV – I wasn’t totally impressed with them either, for example they left a light on underneath that I didn’t even know about which discharged the battery.
Maybe if I had got one of the diesels that cost 3X they would have been more carefulSep 1, 2018 at 3:09 am #3554110
That’s a nice looking rig!Sep 1, 2018 at 12:34 pm #3554149
I have heard great things about Tiffen. Did the dealer try to make it right sbout the bstteries?
How goes it? Hope the summer has been good :-)Sep 1, 2018 at 2:00 pm #3554159
The dealer did not handle well the list of warranty items I gave him
For example, there were a bunch of minor things and some scratches to the exterior. I gave them the RV. A week later they had fixed most of the items and I called them, they asked me if I wanted them to do the painting. In my mind, they should have planned this out ahead of time and figured out how to schedule this so the painting got done within that week. And if they didn’t they should have been apologetic. Instead, it seemed like they were just trying to wait me out because the scratches were minor. Made no effort to get the painting done. Eventually, they had me take it to some painting place which took another few days.
The front shades roll down electrically. Two year later they both broke. Tiffin said it was out of warranty too bad. The shade people, Automotion Shade, replaced them for free – they didn’t have to. I think the problem in the first place was when they installed them they didn’t put the right counter tension on the spring so there was too much force on the motor which caused them to fail prematurely, so this was a Tiffin installation mistake. Based on talking to the Automotion guy on the phone.
The weight on the front axle is right at the maximum spec by the chassis manufacturer. If I carefully remove everything heavy from the front of the rig. I called up Tiffin. They could have reassured me, talked about how being a little overweight isn’t that big a deal and describing the effect. Make sure my tires are properly inflated. If they were really cool they could have offered to move the batteries from the front to the rear, but that would have been a pain. They could think me for letting me know there’s a problem so they fix it in future models. Instead, they put me through to someone in the noisy factory and we could barely hear each other so I just gave up.
I feel much better now.
On the other hand the rig is really nice. People make comments as I drive down the street. I’d likely buy another again. All RVs are cheaply made because they have to make a profit or the business will go out of business. If you buy an RV check it out really carefully.Sep 1, 2018 at 2:23 pm #3554164
<p style=”text-align: left;”>You bought new Jerry?</p>
I have often seena laundry list of warranty issues with new ones.
Your right to be built to a price.Sep 1, 2018 at 2:53 pm #3554167
Yeah, new in 2013Sep 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm #3554173Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
The dealer did not handle well the list of warranty items I gave him
Now we are in my area of expertise — aftersales service.
On a scale of 1 – 10, most RV dealers operate at around a minus 20. There are a lot of reasons for this, none are acceptable IMO.
BTW, if you let a generator sit for long period of time with fuel in the tank, you should add fuel stabilizer to the tank. Best to drain the tank and carburetor. Most will have an accessible screw in the carb for draining.Sep 1, 2018 at 3:44 pm #3554175
and many customers have unreasonable expectations : )
Yeah, I put stabilizer in the main gas tank, drive around to make sure it’s mixed, then run the generator for 30 minutes, then let it sit for 6 months. So far so good.
I should disconnect the fuel line and let it run until it stops from lack of fuel, then not worry about itDec 18, 2018 at 12:36 am #3569268
Hope all are well and set for Xmas.
Put the rv in to storage in November, hoping to get some XC skiing, backpacking or show shoe trips in soon.
Currently looking to purchase a small car to tow behind the rv, will use it to get to trailheads and haul kayaks.Dec 18, 2018 at 1:02 am #3569270
Seasons Greetings Stephen. Any big trips with the RV this year?
Ours just collected dust this year. Not sure what the future holds but we are likely going to put in on the market in the spring and pursue other options next year. I’m considering a few possibilities ranging from a nice Kodiak tent and a few cots, to a T@B 400, or possibly selling my truck and buying a Ram Promaster and building out a camper van.
Our TT isn’t all that big but I found that I really want something even lighter and more nimble for weekend getaways.Dec 18, 2018 at 1:39 am #3569271
Seasons greetings back to you Ian,
We got out about 30 nights this year, mainly long weekends of 3-5 nights. As we only got it in May the summer was a big shake down. I think I am all squared away now. We do plan to get 50-60 nights in next year and go further afield.
Thats a shame your TT gathered dust. The T@Bs sure are nice. There are a few Pro Masters at the storage lots I used and always have a look at them.
You would be surprised how reasonably priced a budget Pro master would be.Dec 18, 2018 at 4:38 am #3569301idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
Lots and lots of bad reviews of Ram Promasters. According to many I’ve read, some of the problems include terrible customer service/refusal to fix known issues and frequent breakdowns and such. Most people seem to be sorry they purchased them, so do a lot of googling about the Promaster before taking the plunge.Dec 18, 2018 at 5:09 am #3569305
Thanks Doug I’ll do more digging. That’s too bad as the FWD, near verticals walls, and low floor really appeal to me.Dec 18, 2018 at 11:39 am #3569316
Thats a shame to hear gents,
Maybe thats why I see them going used on the cheap.
That leaves the Mercedes Sprinter which is ridiculously priced and the Ford Transit.Dec 18, 2018 at 12:41 pm #3569319
The Ford Transit seems okay.
I’m not interested in the Mercedes due to the maintenance costs and requirements.
The total cost for buying a van and then building it out is much greater than buying a used T@B 400, which has a lot of appeal and appears to be one of the better quality options out there in its class.
My concern with it is the east west orientation of the bed and that one of us would be wedged in against the wall.
Off the top of my head, its dry weight is around 2600 lbs. Its tongue weight is a bit too high for something like a Toyota Sienna but my Tundra would pull it fine and I’d expect to get at/over 15 mpg compared to our current camper where I’m closer to 9 mpg.
We’ll see. It’s going to be another year or two before we’re going to get serious about shopping for our next one.Dec 18, 2018 at 1:24 pm #3569322
I agree on the Mercedes.
Would you consider a pop up truck camper for the Tundra?
I have a Seqouia which is the Tundras twin and love it.Dec 18, 2018 at 2:06 pm #3569324Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
Drove the Ram for FedEx. Stay away from those rebadged Fiats. Happy Holidays.Dec 18, 2018 at 4:26 pm #3569334
Ah, its a rebadged Fiat Ducato.
The diesel ones were decent.Dec 18, 2018 at 4:45 pm #3569337
Thanks Ken. I’m not going to consider it any further. I did some googling at Doug’s suggestion and that doesn’t sound like something I’d want to get involved with.
Stephen, yes re Fiat except that they used a Dodge engine here in the US which I believe is the same one they use in their minivans.Dec 18, 2018 at 4:54 pm #3569339
Re pop top.
Yes I have considered it but we had a truck camper before. I really like the small footprint and how maneuverable that platform is, I don’t like getting in and out of it especially not having a grab handle or railing that will go from the camper that’ll reach all the way to the last step. Ours had aluminum steps and someone fell on it in the rain.
There’s also the issue of loading and unloading our dogs from it as safely as possible. Our golden retriever puppy is about 75lbs right now which I can lift easy enough, but add mud, distracted dog, whatever, I’d like to keep the process of loading/unloading all of our mammals to be as simple and safe as possible.
I could possibly find a shorter one that doesn’t hang back over the end of the truck. In that case, a standard RV folding grab handle would be enough, but at the moment I like the idea of a camper van or smaller trailer betterDec 18, 2018 at 8:36 pm #3569384
Thats a good point about the steps Ian, sounds like a small TT is the way to go.
I do like the the A frame hard shell popups.Dec 20, 2018 at 12:09 am #3569513
I have a 2013 Honda CRV, but I haven’t converted to tow behind RV. The car is pretty good as a car. I think starting 2015 you can’t tow them (4 on ground). Since it’s AWD and somewhat high ground clearance maybe good for going to a trailhead.Dec 20, 2018 at 1:05 am #3569517
I read the 2015 can bw flat towed. I have seen a lot of the 2014’s and older flat towed.
So you don’t bother with a tow car at all?Dec 20, 2018 at 4:27 pm #3569577
I do not bother with towed car
One thing is, we’ve sort of worn out RVing and don’t want to spend several thousand $s on tow car conversion.
If you land somewhere for a week or more you could just rent a car. If you’re going close you can drive a separate car.
I have a friend that used to tow, but just quit doing it because it was a hassle hooking, unhooking, and towing. But he is getting less mobile because of health reasons.Dec 20, 2018 at 4:35 pm #3569579
If we are somewhere for 3-4 days we don’t bother with a car either. For anything longer my wife just follows behind me :-) We have a trip about 500 miles away this year so will rent like you.
I do need to figure out a solution for our Kayaks, I am done with carrying them inside. I think I may get a hitch mount.
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