Mar 18, 2020 at 4:31 pm #3636671
Brenda and my problem is we spend too much time sitting in the RV in close proximity. Still, we get along pretty good. There and everywhere. We both say how glad we are we found each other.Mar 20, 2020 at 6:47 pm #3637069
I had been thinking about buying a new truck this summer. Probably around Labor Day, because it’s usually the first big sale with incentives (rebates) from Ford. However, there isn’t usually any huge incentives on the Super Duty trucks (F250 or F350).
This Monday Joyce told me Ford’s US plants were closed for at least a month due to the pandemic and she thought the state might go into lockdown. She said she wanted to buy me a new truck because our house remodel exceeded all her expectations. One of her good friends is a salesperson at the Ford dealer she used to work at, so she made an appointment. Went up yesterday and this is what she bought…
picture from a location in the middle of the desert today.
Her friend called last night as we were driving the truck home from L.A., and said the State’s “shelter-at-home” order has shutdown their sales department until April 19th, minimum. So no one in California can buy a new vehicle right now. We got in just under the wire.
4WD, tow capacity of 14,500 lbs, and it has a 48 gallon gas tank. Engine is the new “Godzilla” 7.3L gasser.Mar 20, 2020 at 6:55 pm #3637070IanBPL Member
Wow Nick! That’s a helluva thank you for the remodel!
I owned a diesel truck years ago. When I bought it, diesel was consistently cheaper than gas and the 3/4 ton truck was getting 22 mpg. With everything that’s changed in both price and reduced fuel economy due to emissions since then, I doubt I’d ever buy another and would go with a gaser too.Mar 20, 2020 at 7:34 pm #3637081
That is a monster of a truck Nick, nice one. :-)Mar 27, 2020 at 12:55 am #3637996
I owned a diesel truck years ago. When I bought it, diesel was consistently cheaper than gas and the 3/4 ton truck was getting 22 mpg. With everything that’s changed in both price and reduced fuel economy due to emissions since then, I doubt I’d ever buy another and would go with a gaser too.
I didn’t even consider a diesel. Extra $10K for one. Maintenance much higher than gas engines. I would have to drive 150,000 miles to break even, assuming prices stay the same relative to gasoline. I won’t be around long enough to drive 150,000 miles. I anticipate some states, especially the People’s Republic of California, are going to start adding heavy taxes on diesel fuel to force people to quit buying/using them.
Note to self: send email to the State Comrades informing them that most of our goods get to the stores in trucks with diesel engines.Mar 27, 2020 at 3:40 am #3638006Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Depends on the diesel engine. Our Toyota Short Wheel Base (SWB) LandCruiser (1988) has done 400,000 km with ZERO service on the engine, gearbox and transmission. I have not even had to clean the injectors.
You will find one of these on every second farm in Australia.
CheersMar 27, 2020 at 8:38 am #3638031
There is a difference between maintenance and repairs.
It is pretty common for gas engines to get 200k – 300k miles tases days.
On most models the other drive train components are the same, only the engines differ — gas vs diesels. Typically diesels have double the crankcase capacity and newer ones require DEF, so maintenance is about double the cost for diesels and fuel economy is about 20% better with diesels. For truck we just bought, a diesel engine would have added over 20% to the purchase price.
Here in the US, companies that buy fleets of heavy duty pickup trucks (3/4 and 1 ton trucks) mostly buy gas engines. About 70% of Ford’s heavy duty diesel truck sales are to individuals for personal use.Apr 14, 2020 at 9:23 am #3641312
Damn it, I must have killed my RV batteries – two 6 V batteries in series.
There’s a disconnect switch so I thought they’d be okay. Ignored it for several months.
I charged them for 24 hours – 11.67 V – that’s maybe “25% charged”. I charged them for another 8 hours and then let them sit overnight – 11.22 V.
I think maybe that’s called sulfation.
Oh well, $150 each. I think I’ll just ignore it.
The 12 V truck battery seems to be okay. I have a little solar panel trickle charger on it now. It was 12.65 V. I probably need to charge it some more.Apr 14, 2020 at 2:14 pm #3641350
Ignored it for several months.
Ouch! I try to use our trailer at least once a month, which means I don’t have to worry about charging the battery bank in between trips. Our last trip was at the end of February. Towards the end of March, since we can’t go camping due to COVID-19, I went to our storage space to check up on things, given it had been sitting for a month. The battery monitor showed 70% charge. We store it in a covered place, so the solar system can’t charge when it is in storage. I had forgot to hit the battery disconnect switch too. I towed it home with the new truck to let the batteries charge. Surprisingly I didn’t have to change the draw bar height going from a 1/2 ton SUV with coil springs to a 3/4 ton truck with leaf springs. The new truck tows like a dream.Apr 14, 2020 at 3:04 pm #3641360
some of us are more respectful of our possessions : )
I have a 1 amp solar trickle charger on it, there’s a remote chance it will fix it. I have read that sometimes a trickle charge will help desulfate.
I’ve also read you can get a de-sulfator charger but there’s a lot of B.S. out there, I don’t think I’ll throw good money after bad
Brenda and I should take a trip, like for at least a week, and charge it continuously, some remote chance that will fix it
At least I didn’t let the acid level drop below the plates, done that beforeApr 14, 2020 at 3:05 pm #3641361
Is there any place you can go now? I believe you go to remote places that are never closed.
Or are you stuck at home?Apr 14, 2020 at 3:30 pm #3641365
It is pretty restrictive. Anything run by the National Park Serivce is closed, to include dispersed camping in the Mojave Preserve. All the BLM “developed” campgrounds are closed; developed includes remote areas accessed by dirt roads where a picnic table and fire pit are the only amenities and are not maintained by the BLM. BLM dispersed camping anywhere near Joshua Tree is closed. Same goes for a lot of areas in Southern Nevada.
Backpacking is about the same. You can’t park at a trailhead, period. Same with the trails in Palm Springs. I am allowed to walk from my house to the trails nearby. So I could hike up the Skyline trail, but would be forbidden to enter the San Jacinto State Wilderness. There is too much snow up near the boundary anyway and crampons and ice axe are necessary to travel much above 7,000 feet.
I just consider all of this a temporary inconvenience.Apr 15, 2020 at 10:44 am #3641460
That’s a shame about the batteries Jerry.
Are you still thinking of selling the coach?Apr 21, 2020 at 5:09 pm #3642446
yeah, probably selling it. Maybe we’ll take a trip in it sometime first.Apr 21, 2020 at 7:14 pm #3642467
Problay best to wait until the virus is past to sell it. Did the batteries charge up?Apr 21, 2020 at 7:58 pm #3642471
I have this 10W solar charger on it. I’ll check it out. I assume the batteries are dead thoughApr 22, 2020 at 2:06 am #3642490
10W ain’t gonna do it.
You need to charge at:
- 5 amps for 24 hours or
- 10 amps for 24 hour or
- 20 amps for 12 hours
This is assuming you have a true deep cycle lead-acid battery.
After charging, the open circuit voltage should be close to 12.8 volts for a deep cycle battery.
Let the battery sit disconnected from the electrical system for 24 hours and retest. Hopefully voltage hasn’t dropped.Apr 22, 2020 at 8:13 am #3642504
yeah, I bought the charger to keep it charged not to charge it, I connected the charger not knowing the batteries were dead. Now I’m just leaving it on there.
I read somewhere a slow charge can sometimes fix batteries with this problem
20 watts would be 1.7 amps of 12 V. 120 hours to charge battery. I’ll look in a couple weeksApr 22, 2020 at 10:09 am #3642529
Jerry my previous post should be 5 amps for 48 hours.
You’re going to need high amps, especially at first, to overcome the electrical resistance.Apr 22, 2020 at 10:33 am #3642537
Well, I charged it for about 24 hours with the built in charger. Using my Honda 1000 W generator. It said 11.6 V. The next day it said 11.2 V. Pretty sure they’re dead.Apr 22, 2020 at 12:37 pm #3642554
A couple problems with the built-in RV charger: it doesn’t put out enough volts (only 14.4 or less) and doesn’t put out enough amps (only 3-5).
When batteries get really low you need high amperage (20 amps is best) and high electrical pressure (something like 15.5 volts).Apr 22, 2020 at 2:11 pm #3642567
I have a battery charger that goes to 10 amps, I could try that, hmmm….Apr 22, 2020 at 7:29 pm #3642627Diane “Piper” SoiniBPL Member
@sbhikesLocale: Santa Barbara
I have a truck on a trickle charger. I don’t think anybody has tried to start it up for at least 3 or 4 months. I feel really bad about this. I should get rid of this truck because I never use it. My never using it has been going on for about 10 years now.
We have a Lexus, a Ford F15o with a popup camper and my Ford Ranger that just sits there. I also have a Honda scooter that is my main motorized transportation and an electric bicycle which I use when I am too lazy to walk, but since the COVID shutdown I only ever walk places anymore. I’m afraid I might have to start putting my scooter on the trickle charger, too.Apr 23, 2020 at 7:51 am #3642670
I hate owning stuff that I don’t use, but has to be maintainedApr 23, 2020 at 3:15 pm #3642742Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
I know that half of my stuff will never be used again – but which half?
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