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Aug 3, 2020 at 6:44 pm #3668694Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Yes, things have changed. UL has become mainstream (well, almost), at least among serious walkers. Gear has evolved and in most cases improved.
Old Chaff discontinued threads? Let them go. Archive and lock maybe.
Old Gear Swap threads: Let them go too. An FS or WTB from 6 months ago is probably totally obsolete now.
On the other hand, there are plenty of recurrent threads about places or techniques which are still relevant – even threads from 15 years ago. Not warm enough because of an inadequate pad? Worries about misting during the night? Trying to navigate with a phone GPS and dying batteries? How to reach Pass X? Most of these are timeless.
CheersAug 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm #3668697
There are definitely useful threads from years ago, no denying that. My point is that most old threads are not useful, serve no purpose and therefore cause slowdowns in the database. Is there really someone on here who thinks that every old thread is useful? Did anyone take my challenge of starting on the last page and moving toward the front? Do you really think all those reviews on equipment that is no longer available is really useful? If so, then we’ll just agree to disagree.
Though, really, that’s academic, since Ryan has made it clear he ain’t deleting nuthin. And it’s his site. :-)Aug 3, 2020 at 7:02 pm #3668702Ryan JordanAdmin
@ryanLocale: Central Rockies
I definitely don’t want Doug to be a moderator.
That sounds like an endorsement 😂
Mainly, the “I ain’t deleting nuthin” approach is based on a time economy. Creating a decision matrix about what makes the cut needs to be pretty simple when you have 1M+ forum posts.
Good contributions in this thread, thanks to all who weighed in.Aug 3, 2020 at 9:40 pm #3668747JacobBPL Member
“A younger (27) friend and coworker I backpack with doesn’t see the value of BPL.”
I’m 27 and I’m here because BPL is not an open forum.
If BPL were open I don’t know if I would use it. There are already larger open forums…
The value of BPL’s forums to me are that each post is worth to the poster at least what they paid. The value of that is self evident to me, especially in the context of backpacking where ignorance can have consequences. The forums are free to read and cheap (less than a park pass) to post in; I don’t think that stops the kind of posters that improve the forum. I wish I could communicate this better. I think BPL should try to be best BPL it can be, not the best subreddit or youtube channel.Aug 3, 2020 at 10:04 pm #3668749
“I wish I could communicate this better.”
I think you did fine Jacob.Aug 4, 2020 at 8:00 am #3668776Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
“Mainly, the “I ain’t deleting nuthin” approach is based on a time economy.”
Yeah, spend a lot of time to delete a small percentage of memory. Even then people will complain you deleted the wrong stuff.
easier to just get more storage, and it doesn’t cost muchAug 4, 2020 at 8:05 am #3668778Ryan JordanAdmin
@ryanLocale: Central Rockies
Just to be clear, Jerry – it’s not a storage (space) issue, and never was. It’s an issue related to the number of records (posts) in the database (not the actual size (length) of the posts. More papers in a file cabinet make it harder (slower) to find something. Whether each sheet of paper has one or one thousand words on it has no impact on finding a particular piece of paper and delivering it to the person who requested it.Aug 4, 2020 at 12:50 pm #3668855Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Changes Often
I’d hate to see the old MYOG threads deleted because those from 10 years ago (or more) are generally the best. It’s an absolute gold mine of information.That’s back when the pros like Ron Bell, Tim Marshall, Ron Moak, as well as Roger and many other VERY capable people freely dispensed their knowledge. Nowadays you see virtually none of that. I’ve picked up most of what I’ve learned from the OLD threads (I still suck though).Aug 4, 2020 at 5:29 pm #3668917Rex SandersBPL Member
@rexLocale: Central California Coast
I suggested this just now in the “Brainstorming …” thread, but it also belongs here:
Turn threads over X years old into static web pages, not database performance nightmares. Requires some thinking about presentation.
— RexAug 4, 2020 at 9:03 pm #3669166
Perhaps at least delete all the threads in the User Test Forum site, and have that forum auto delete after something is moved to the second page or something. There’s almost 1500 threads in that forum, unless some of you think that’s of historical importance too… :-) (That last part was joking!)Aug 4, 2020 at 9:16 pm #3669167
I just had a look at the Forum Index Page (something I don’t visit very often). It’s pretty interesting in what it shows. The forum with the most posts, by far (almost double the one in second) is gear swap with 68000+ threads. Wow. Second is Gear with a bit over 34500 threads. Nothing else breaks 10000 threads. (This is if the numbers are correct on the page, they don’t actually seem to add up to the numbers on the right). Of course, Gear Swap only has ~190000 posts (if I understand the numbers), while Gear has ~362000 posts.
And while Chaff doesn’t have very many active users, it’s actually in 5th for the most threads, and 3rd for the most posts. We are a busy bunch in Chaff.
Also consider reconsolidating the topics. I think BPL might have tried to be too many things to all people, maybe consider bringing the focus back down.
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