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- May 9, 2016 at 11:15 pm #3401397
Please restore this feature.May 9, 2016 at 11:17 pm #3401399
Editing titles is a terrible idea. A little while ago some thread went off rails and the OP changed the title to reflect the topic it ended up on… that’s just not how forums work.
If they put it back, they should only put it back for Gear Swap so that people can add “sold”. But even then, people too often use that ability to scrub pricing info after an item has sold.
I like this change.May 9, 2016 at 11:28 pm #3401405
But you can’t edit the the post itself either. I know which thread you speak of and agree it turn out to be a mess. But one should be able to edit at least to fix mistakes in the post. Especially with so many formatting issues going on currently. Would also be super nice if BPL would inform the paying customers of intended changes.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one as I am a big fan of wiping my Gearswap posts clean once my business is done.May 10, 2016 at 1:52 am #3401420
Yea, the ability to edit the first post for at least a limited time period would make sense. But I can’t stand coming across an old thread full of [post deleted] followed by “thanks, that’s amazing information!” It happens too often here, some people make a habit of it and it doesn’t serve the community.May 10, 2016 at 10:44 am #3401490
Since Gearswap instructions tell you to edit your post this ability should be restored asap.May 10, 2016 at 10:50 am #3401494
Simon KentonBPL Member
I wonder if this change had to do with the security flaw that was recently exploited?May 10, 2016 at 3:14 pm #3401573
Barry PBPL Member
@barrypLocale: Eastern Idaho (moved from Midwest)
Please do not wipe clean the sold price or what was sold. That is helpful public info.
-BarryMay 10, 2016 at 4:35 pm #3401595
Yes, the change IS in response to a serious bit of misbehaviour by one person. It is unfortunate that it happened.
I will have to check about restoring the ability to edit your own posting within a few days: that would be desirable. Whether this Forum SW can handle that – I do not know. Failing that, you can post a SOLD notice at the end of the thread, or you can email me for help.
CheersMay 11, 2016 at 7:32 am #3401741
Post a photo or two in the first post of a FS listing and then put all content, pricing and other info in a reply to that initial post. Then it’s editable!
This doesn’t address our inability to edit the thread title unfortunately…May 26, 2016 at 7:16 am #3404797
I’m unable to edit my FS posts even immediately after posting. I want to be able to correct spelling and information errors or even add another photo for clarification. I’m 69 years old and in the old days you could at least use the eraser on the pencil. Please restore this feature. I know of no other outdoor site that won’t allow editing, at least for a time. The only thing I can do now is edit with a response post. But then readers have to be sure they scroll down on every FS post to be sure they haven’t missed updated info like a price change. This is not logical! Cheers!May 26, 2016 at 4:15 pm #3404883
Yes, I agree it’s a pain. Being hacked the way we were was also a pain. It would be nice to be able to specify an edit ability for a few days, but that feature does not seem to be in the forum SW afaik. Maybe in a future release?
CheersJun 3, 2016 at 9:33 am #3406756
Ed BiermannBPL Member
Allow people to save the moderators some time and trouble.Jun 5, 2016 at 8:23 am #3407137
BPL Moderator TeamSpectator
Thinking about a technical solution to make gear swap more effective. After monitoring this and a few other discussions, seems like there are both unique advantages and disadvantages to having the ability to edit posts/titles/etc, and what edit time limits to put in place
1. Should Gear Swap continue to be integrated with the forums, or should it be separated into a different format better suited to a classified ads system?
2. What controls do you want in place to make sure seller integrity is kept in check? Some folks seem to desire this and don’t want sellers to have edit privileges that are too liberal.
I’ll cull together the responses and talk to Ryan more about this when he gets back (son graduates this weekend and they have family in town so he’s offline for a few days).Jun 5, 2016 at 8:59 am #3407141
Jun 5, 2016 at 10:08 am #3407158
- Just move it back off the recent threads page like it was for a short time if you have those issues resolved. Same treatment as Chaff. There if you want it, but, not in your face.
- Full editing capability restored. No time limit. Such few problems over the long history proves that the self policing works. No need to over complicate things.
“What controls do you want in place to make sure seller integrity is kept in check”
Not sure I know what is meant by this? What problems have you had with editing and sellers integrity? Thanks!
My reasons for being able to edit. Are there others that would be desired?
-To remedy an error in your listing.
-To change the title or body to add or remove certain items thus limiting additional posting. For example, if I create a post selling men’s pants and later want to sell additional pants, I can have all the pants concentrated in 1 post.
– With an edit feature that includes deletion of a post, when something is found or sold, the post can be removed.
If it is felt that repeated “bumping up” without changes in the post is an issue, make a rule that allows, for example, “bumping up” only after 2 weeks from date of post.Jun 5, 2016 at 10:21 am #3407162
I don’t see how integrity of the seller can be controlled by BPL. Nor should it be. BPL just supplies a place for the ad to be posted. Members are usually good about letting others know about issues with transactions.Jun 5, 2016 at 12:29 pm #3407188
@ryanLocale: Central Rockies
Quick notes, busy day here.
* Full editing capabilities seem reasonable. I know a few people want to see a documented “paper trail”, not because we wish to control integrity, but as a self-regulating accountability mechanism to see price history, how the transaction evolves, doing research to evaluate seller history, etc. Thoughts specifically on this?
* Something that came up in our recent site speed audit: there’s enough forum traffic in the Gear Swap that moving “classifieds” to another section of the website and out of the forums may actually improve forum load times, esp. on the recent threads page. Excluding forums from that page actually slows down the query…and diverting gear swap traffic from the forums would speed up the forums as a whole.
* Moving out of forums would help categorize postings (packs, bags, pads, teddy bears, etc.) and provide an interface for both buyers and sellers to manage their watch/sell lists, etc.
I’ll check in again tomorrow.Jun 5, 2016 at 12:39 pm #3407193
“self-regulating accountability mechanism. Thoughts specifically on this”
Care to elaborate? What does that even mean?
Moving Gear Swap. Well with so few posts shown on the Recents page conversations get buried reall easily. How many people use new posts since last visit or the Recents threads as their portal here vs. people who only visit certain forums?Jun 5, 2016 at 1:07 pm #3407203
@monkeyseeLocale: Up a tree
Moving out of forums would help categorize postings (packs, bags, pads, teddy bears, etc.) and provide an interface for both buyers and sellers to manage their watch/sell lists, etc.
Backpackinglight-Bay? :)Jun 5, 2016 at 1:52 pm #3407212
Closet cleaning posts listing a variety of items. What happens there? Going to force people to make multiple listings that then they are suppose to manage? Leave it alone.Jun 5, 2016 at 3:43 pm #3407232
If it is felt that repeated “bumping up” without changes in the post is an issue, make a rule that allows, for example, “bumping up” only after 2 weeks from date of post.
This rule already exists and is enforced. Bumping may lead to the whole thread being deleted. Repeated offences may lead to suspension.
Roger CaffinJun 5, 2016 at 9:32 pm #3407285
me of courseBPL Member
Another site I visit bans any FS post asking for F&F payment via PayPal (and will delete any post that asks for payment in that way). I think that’s wise. Whatever agreement people come to via PMs and email is none of your concern, but you shouldn’t allow your forums to openly skirt PayPal rules. (Boy, if you still had the thumbs down button, I’d be getting lots of them!).Jun 5, 2016 at 9:57 pm #3407292
I understand the idea, and can see some merit in it.
However, our current policy is that BPL has ZERO involvement in any financial negotiation between buyer and seller. Any such arrangements are entirely between buyer and seller. On balance, I favour keeping it that way.
Roger CaffinJun 5, 2016 at 11:31 pm #3407306
My belief – People will nearly always seek a means to skirt the rules if the rules are not to their monetary advantage. Thus some, either the buyer or seller, are willing to take the risk of a less than satisfactory outcome without Paypal recourse but none the less desire the convenience of a rapid and feeless transaction. Paypal certainly understands this and if it were not a sufficiently profitable business, the F and F feature would likely be removed. A dose of Paypal good will?Jun 6, 2016 at 12:30 am #3407309
me of courseBPL Member
“However, our current policy is that BPL has ZERO involvement in any financial negotiation between buyer and seller. Any such arrangements are entirely between buyer and seller. On balance, I favour keeping it that way.”
I agree Roger, pretty completely. As I said in my post, whatever deal buyer/seller make is none of BPL’s concern. I guess I don’t see how that invalidates not allowing buyers to ask for F&F in their forum post on BPL. I certainly understand how you and others could though, so perhaps we’ll agree to hold different opinions, since it’s certainly not all that important.
Of course, the irony, a few years ago I was one of the worst offenders. What is it they say about ex-smokers? :-)
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