Nov 9, 2019 at 5:51 pm #3617926
When I extend my knee, like when I stand from a sitting position, there’s quite a bit of pain.
I don’t remember any injury or anything that precipitated it.
At first it was just when I put weight on it, then even without putting weight on it.
I continued living life, but avoided extending it when painful. Took Ibuprofen a couple times mostly to reduce inflammation. When possible extended it to stretch it out.
After a couple days, now there is just a slight amount of pain when I extend knee while putting weight on it, no pain if I don’t put weight on it. I’ll just continue stretching it some but not overdoing. This has happened before.
My theory is as I get old, my muscles are slowly degenerating. I should do weight lifting. I do 40 minutes on an exercise bike every few days.
I should go see physical therapist
Anyone else experience this? This must have a name : )Nov 10, 2019 at 1:53 am #3617981
A lot of general practitioners have minimal experience in this area: you need a sports doctor accustomed to treating athletes, especially runners. You also need to avoid surgery if at all possible: it does not help.
Two things to look for: a bruised fat pad under the patella (there really is such a thing), and a stress fracture in (most likely) the tibia, just below the knee.
I doubt that your muscles are deteriorating. For a couple of weeks you should try real rest, with little or no exercise of the knee joint. Stay right off your feet in fact. Then try gentle graduated exercises. If there is sharp pain, back off. That’s a warning from your body. A bit of a dull ache is OK provided you then rest the joint for an hour or two.
IF a stress fracture is the problem, recovery could take 4 – 6 months of careful treatment – but full recovery is possible. This happens to runners a lot.
So why do some people think surgery will help? It’s not the surgery which works; it’s the month or two of recovery time which does the trick!
PS: for more info, try http://www.runnersworld.com and search on either knee pain or stress fracture.Nov 10, 2019 at 3:25 am #3617990Daryl and DarylBPL Member
@lyrad1Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
I would also ice it several times a day……..if it helps.
.Nov 10, 2019 at 4:03 am #3617996
Icing: it may work for some cases or conditions, but for others it actually slows the healing process down. That figures: organic chemistry rates double for every 10 C rise. Healing is an organic process. YMMV.
CheersNov 10, 2019 at 3:44 pm #3618021
surgery would be the last option, although a friend of mine got it and is better now.
much better a couple days later, still a slight twinge
I saw a physical therapist a few years back for something similar and he said stretching exercises and exercise bike to build muscles. As you get older muscles get smaller. I can tell my calves are smaller than they used to be. If your muscles are weaker then you can have joint problems. That’s what the PT said.
If you do too much resting things can even get worse. Like they used to say bed rest for back problems, but now they say gradually increasing exercise. “Listen to your body” – avoid exercising that causes a lot of pain.Nov 11, 2019 at 1:26 am #3618087jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
There’s muscle pain, tendon/ligament pain, and arthritic pain. As I learned the hard way, doctors lump all sorts of things under ‘arthritic pain’.
My bone on bone condition was called ‘arthritic pain’ by my doctors. the meniscus separating the top bone from the bottom was gone. I was told to do strength conditioning. I did. It didn’t help. Think about it. How in the world would it? Knee muscles have nothing, nada, zilch, to do with joint separation. Bone on bone means just what it says. In the end I had a total knee replacement–and it’s made a world of difference for the better. So, au contraire to Roger’s assertion, there are instances where surgery is the only effective option.
In the sixties there was a fad that suggested one could correct their eyesight by exercising the eye muscles. Of course, exercise has no effect whatsoever on distorted retinas, which cause bad eyesight. Exercising was an exercise in futility, in this instance. Same with some knee conditions–although probably–hopefully– not Jerry’s!Nov 11, 2019 at 1:33 am #3618088
No, I never said surgery was of no use. What I said was that medicos without good experience in SPORTS medicine can make mistaken diagnoses.
CheersNov 11, 2019 at 1:52 am #3618091Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
“You also need to avoid surgery if at all possible: it does not help.”
”No, I never said surgery was of no use.”
OK BoomerNov 11, 2019 at 2:06 am #3618096jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
Roger, I couldn’t agree more. Anyone with developing knee issues needs to see a sports specialist and not settle for less. AND do their own research!Nov 11, 2019 at 2:22 pm #3618164
that was funny Ken
I see I can now retire from chaff, my work is doneNov 11, 2019 at 2:38 pm #3618168
yeah, bone on bone is something surgery will help. That’s what my friend did and is much better now.
I think if you have strong muscles it tends to keep your bones in alignment. If you have weaker muscles then the bones on each side of a joint can move further apart and then damage a ligament. Or something like that…
I can now sit up and down without pain, although there might be some slight thing going on. I’m going to go back to exercise bike, slowly at first.Nov 13, 2019 at 8:41 pm #3618530IanBPL Member
I’m wearing a boot thanks to a damaged tendon as I write this.
I continue to learn that pain management is a key component of healing, and that ignoring pain can create new injuries.
With my current example, I injured myself two weeks ago and have been walking with a limp. Because this threw my gait off, my knee started to hurt, then my hip and lower back. These injuries can have cascading effects.
Sometimes the pain is a symptom of issues elsewhere in your body and can be fixed by strengthening a particular muscle.
I tore my meniscus in the Wonderland Trail back in 2012 or so but tried to tough through it for another 3-4 years. I finally broke down and visited a local orthopedic clinic. With a combination of a cortisone shot and some physical therapy, I finally have some real healing in that knee.
I’m reluctant to visit the doc sometimes but am slowly learning to tap out early, especially when it comes to my mobility.
Best of luck JerryNov 13, 2019 at 9:22 pm #3618547
I hope you get better soon Ian
Yeah, one injury can precipitate others.
I’m pretty much back to normal. I just need to be a little careful not to over exert.
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