- Oct 21, 2017 at 2:07 pm #3497759
Did anyone see 60 minutes focus group of Trump and anti Trump voters moderated by Oprah Nov 6?
Towards the end, they were trying to figure out why Trump voters still supported him
To me it makes no sense to be conned by a scamster. Trump spends all his time in Twitter wars and doesn’t even try to tell the truth. How could anyone still support him?
But the Trump supporters were middle class, middle of the country. Their employment has degraded in the last few decades. They blame it on corporations and wealthy people that have corrupted the government. (Which is accurate in my opinion). They want someone to come in, kick over all the tables, drain the swamp, and replace with something that works for middle class middle of the country.
All of Trump’s twitter wars where he lies and insults people for no reason is just kicking over the tables. Trump supporters have no problem with the lies and pointless arguments.
Trump supporters are still satisfied with Trump saying he’s going to build a wall and deport illegal immigrants, cancel trade deals, drain the swamp, reform taxes so middle income people pay less but not rick people like Trump, replace Obamacare with something that will be cheaper and better for everyone,…
I wonder if there will ever be a reckoning where they realize none of that happened and their economic situation is actually worse? Or is Trump expert enough to keep his supporters perceptions that he’s actually accomplishing it?
Or Trump isn’t successful but it’s because there are too many R establishment politicians. Taking out establishment Rs could take longer than two Trump terms.Oct 21, 2017 at 3:42 pm #3497765Oct 21, 2017 at 4:42 pm #3497767
I don’t agree Trump belongs on that list. There are no cases that I know of of women that said they were asking for career help and then Trump asked for sex in return. And there aren’t 10s of women coming forward saying “me too”.
Saying horrible things like Trump is different. Or someone asking someone else for sex. It’s when it’s in return for career help. Or done without consent. Although it would be unwise for anyone to ask subordinates for sex acts, but there are times people working with each other become romantically involved and it works out.
Bill has been attacked politically. All of the women that have made accusations against him have associated with Bill’s political attackers, like Ann Colter wrote a legal brief. It’s hard to know what really happened. I hope Hillary doesn’t run for office again : )
The accusers of Weinstein were if anything politically aligned with Weinstein. Cosby’s accusers didn’t seem to be political, although he has come out with controversial positions, it could have been political?. Ailes and O’Reily were very political so it makes sense someone would be politically attacking them, but were their accusers aligned with any political attackers of conservatives? I think there was at least one lawyer whose mission is to represent women, but not to attack conservatives in general.
Equating Trump’s comments with Weinstein’s actions diminishes those actions. I hear liberals doing this, because they don’t like Trump in general? or they don’t recognize the difference between asking for sex and asking for sex in return for career help?Oct 23, 2017 at 4:21 pm #3498033
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Makes me wonder what goes on in Vegas, the music and radio industry. There must be a lot of pay to play as well.Oct 26, 2017 at 3:18 pm #3498598
Ashley Judd was harrassed by Weinstein. I think this sort of story is good for women so they know what to do in such a situation:
“…I fought with this volley of ‘no’s,’ which he ignored,” Judd said. “Who knows? Maybe he heard them as ‘maybe.’ Maybe he heard them as ‘yeses.’ Maybe they turned him on…”
“…And finally I just said, ‘When I win an Oscar in one of your movies, OK?’ And he was like, ‘Yeah, when you get nominated.’ I said, ‘No, when I win an Oscar.’ And then I just fled.'”
“Looking back what happened, Judd said that part of her feels ashamed that she didn’t say “no” at the start and part of her is proud of herself for getting out of that situation.
“We all do the best we can, and our best is good enough,” Judd added. “And it’s really OK to have responded however we responded.”Oct 26, 2017 at 4:50 pm #3498612
“Ashley Judd was harrassed by Weinstein. I think this sort of story is good for women so they know what to do in such a situation:”
That is what she did, which is fine, but hardly what I would set as “what to do”.
I say both men and women ought to start with appreciating when girls ( and then women) are direct.Oct 26, 2017 at 6:04 pm #3498624
yeah, I agree
She was conflicted whether that was a good way to deal with it or not
Any criticism should be on the perpetratorOct 26, 2017 at 6:09 pm #3498627
“Any criticism should be on the perpetrator”
sure but at the same time one can teach girls to better fend off people like him, because (rightfully) blaming the perpretator does little as far as what already happened to the individual. Deal with aggressors but for pete’s sake lets also teach our girls how to navigate this world and avoid that kind of trauma.Nov 8, 2017 at 2:10 pm #3501007
Interesting. A must read in my opinion.
“The film executive hired private investigators, including ex-Mossad agents, to track actresses and journalists.”
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