sleeping system

[eric schultz]

I am doing the JMT in mid August. I have a nemo siren 30 degree quilt. I am looking for lightweight(ounces,not rating) layering system. I have a beanie and montbell down jacket. I did a over night in az this weekend. I do not know want the low was but when i poured water into my plastic cup it made some slush. Nevertheless i was cold at night. I had a lightweight top, beanie and put my jacket over my legs. Does anybody have suggestions of specfic brands that will not break the bank
Thanks
Eric

[Tim Marshall]

What are you using for a pad? Without a warm enough pad you will be cold but it feels cold on top as it sucks your heat out the bottom.

The Siren is a nice little quilt. A bit pricy and a bit heavy with a few wonky quirks but it should be warm to freezing with just a base layer.

-Tim

[Justin Baker]

Tim (the guy above me) makes reasonably priced quilts that are highly regarded on here. Get a 20 degree.

edit: forgot to add, his company name is enlightened equipment.

[eric schultz]

Tim
I am using the nemo pad that they recommend.
Thanks
Eric

[Tim Marshall]

Eric,

How are you using it? Are you putting the pad inside the quilt like their promotional photos? If do this may be part of your problem. The quilt is a little small to go around you and the pad without loft compression. If that's the case use the quilt on top and you may find it warmer. Also try a warmer head covering. Some people use little head Insulation (Me) but others want serious head warmth (maybe you). Also what do you wear on your feet?

How to you like the NEMO "Pad attachment system"?

-Tim

[Steven McAllister]

I know I have used 30 degree quilts and sleeping bag down to 15 degrees, but I wear layers, including a down hooded sweater to bed and use warm sleeping pads (or underquilt if I'm in a hammock).

As Tim mentioned, a warm cap is important. Keeping your head and torso warm is key.

My hands and feet will get cold first if I don't have enough insulation on my head and/or torso.
I believe that is common with most people and part of how your body works.

[eric schultz]

I have used the bag like a quilt, not a bag. I think I need to close the bag.
Thanks
Eric

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