Mar 19, 2013 at 7:50 am #1300641
Continuing my quest to gear up 7 teenagers and 1 other adult for a Canadian hiking trip, I am looking to BUY FOUR MORE BACKPACKS. Here's what I'm looking for:
>below 3.5 lbs (a shade over ok, but not much!)
>pretty darn big…50 L +
>beat-to-heck…or new, doesn't matter, as long as it's functional and the hip padding isn't shot.
So sell me your old Deuter ACT Zeros, your Granite Gears, or similar packs. Time to dig deep in the closet and PM me your best deals shipped CONUS.
(My zip is 77611 if that helps with shipping guestimates).Mar 19, 2013 at 7:57 am #1967393
Countryments are like countrymen, I suppose, but smell less like hikers.Mar 19, 2013 at 8:02 am #1967394
@saparisorLocale: Pacific Northwest
You can't change the original post heading, for some reason.
But "countryment" does lend this thread an air of sophistication.Mar 19, 2013 at 8:35 pm #1967671
Picking up a Z55, considering an Osprey…y'all keep 'em coming!Mar 19, 2013 at 10:08 pm #1967700
@creachenLocale: East Bay
PM Sent ULA P2Mar 21, 2013 at 8:19 pm #1968410
I've bought two and am considering two others…but if anyone else wants to offer something up from the dust-covered back of their closet, here's your chance.Mar 21, 2013 at 10:01 pm #1968430
@m-lLocale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
why not go frameless? Im sure they will like it more, keep in mind some peoples baseweights here are 3.5 pounds.
Since you guys will be sharing shelter/ cooking im not sure what you need that much volume for.Mar 22, 2013 at 6:28 am #1968478
Short answer regarding frameless: I simply don't like frameless.
As for volume, my (much longer) answer is a little fuzzier–and you may be right.
All tents are HS Tarptents (sorry, no tarps, gotta block the bugs). All the sleeping pads are full-length el cheapos that strap on the outside of the pack (sorry, can't sleep with my feet on the ground–or ask others to do so). Mess kit is compact enough (though not as titanium as I would like it to be). First aid and general ditty bag stuff is much more expanded than what I normally carry, since I am taking somewhat inexperienced teenagers who might be accident prone (testing, testing: does Axe body spray/deodorant/shampoo/etc. attract bears? We are DOOMED!). I can't afford good sleeping bags for this trip, so we're doing $30, 3 lb sleeping bags, which don't compress worth a crappola (aarrggghhh). In general, teenagers pack too many clothes, too much food, and tend to haul stupid crap (yes, one is bringing a hatchet).
Still, none of this explains the volume I'm collecting here. Hmmm…Mar 22, 2013 at 2:47 pm #1968642
@rushfanLocale: Northern California
As a scout leader who has to deal with teenagers packing on a monthly basis, you can guide them to bring much less junk. Give them a minimal pack list and do a gear check before you load up the cars. You will be amazed at how much lighter their packs will be if you help them eliminate the extras…
Also, make sure that the kids pack their own bags instead of having their moms pack for them.
Good luck. Should be very rewarding to all.Mar 22, 2013 at 3:30 pm #1968656
Another thing another Scout leader showed me is he takes his pack in completely packed and takes it all out in front of the boys, showing them everything he takes. This helps them visualize what they might not need. Still do a list, but this helps them associate their own stuff with what the list says.Mar 23, 2013 at 11:20 am #1968822
I just need ONE more !
(though I have a couple of higher end packs to consider…but am unsure about spending the $)
And thanks for the advice from the experienced troop leaders. This gang I'm taking is all 16 years old and grew up together, spending enough time at my house that I should have been able to claim every one of them on my taxes. I'm just evil enough to let them carry what they want…for a week…so they never forget the lesson.
Another evil side note. Each person carries one group dinner. We carry a set of dice. Everyone is assigned a number, we roll the dice, and that person's dinner gets eaten, therefore lightening his load for the remainder of the trip. Now here's the evil part. There are only nine of us, so if a 10, 11, or 12 is rolled, then a selection process begins…and somebody's prized 16-year-old almost-mustache gets waxed off right there in camp. That is, of course, just one example of what might await them. FEEL FREE TO SUGGEST MORE IDEAS…
Oh, and offer up ONE MORE PACK for a fair price from the recesses of your dusty gear closet!Mar 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm #1968947
I just PM'd you about a pack.
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