Sep 6, 2012 at 5:55 pm #1293792
Found in the Wind River Range below the treeline last week. Any of you CSI types have opinions? Note the grey, white, and bright yellow feathers in his talons.Sep 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm #1909837
Tad EnglundBPL Member
@bestbuilderLocale: Pacific Northwest
It ate a rodent that had been poisoned?Sep 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm #1909840
Hmm, maybe, but why did it have yellow feathers in it's talons? Any who's poisoning rodents in the Winds?
I'm thinking it was a bird fight that went wrong and he crashed into a tree or rock or something. Really not certain at all though. No visible trauma, but I didn't pick him up and check all around.Sep 6, 2012 at 6:51 pm #1909852
appears to be a Merlin, falcon not hawk :)
falcons mainly kill birds for a diet, hence the feathers in it's talon
I would say not poison as usually the talons become clutched and again birds make up the majority of their diet
bird appears healthy so it probably met a swift end- trauma from hitting a hard object or a hard object hitting it (larger falcon :))
pretty hard to tell from a pic, a little easier when in hand and you can necropsy itSep 6, 2012 at 6:51 pm #1909853
@sschloss1Locale: New England
And there's no telling what killed it. I don't see any obvious signs of injury–if it's collided with something, there's usually a noticeably broken neck. It could've been poisoned if it fed on a poisoned carcass (our government and some other misguided folks put out poisoned bait for predators). Or maybe it just died of natural causes.Sep 6, 2012 at 6:56 pm #1909856
if it's a sharp-shinned hawk then it's even more likely it met it's demise hitting a hard object (tree) as they are forest hunters and are constantly dodging trees to get their preySep 6, 2012 at 6:59 pm #1909858
Thanks Scott for the ID on the type of hawk. I'm not a birder, but this guy really got me interested. I hate to hear about poison being the culprit, but maybe you guys are right. Any clue on the type of bird that might have been wearing the yellow feathers? I didn't see anything up there with those colors.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:06 pm #1909862
BPL's software only pulled up Scott's post about a sharp skinned hawk, but then I read the other posts which led me to pull up some google images of a Merlin Falcon. I have to say, it resembles the falcon a little more than the hawk to my untrained eye, but they are very similar. Still, the cause of death isn't really clear. I think he bonked into something, but who knows. Pretty unusual thing to see, anyway.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:10 pm #1909864
possibly a species of warbler, a lot of them have yellow on themSep 6, 2012 at 7:14 pm #1909865
Mike, you are a wealth of info. Thanks man.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:15 pm #1909866
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
I'm surprised that we haven't seen any recipes that use hawk roadkill.
–B.G.–Sep 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm #1909869
Yeah, Bob, unfortunately the altitude took my appetite away. And they had a fire ban. Otherwise I would have put my Bobby Flay skills to the test:)
Probably a little gamey, so I'm thinking I should have packed some bacon or pancetta to go with it. The broth would have gone nice in my Pack It Gourmet dinners.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm #1909871
Since many BPLers are busy I thought I'd help them out and answer for them:
Ken Thompson – It's not really dead, it's just faking it so it doesn't have to come to my GGG.
David Thomas – You'd have to check the angle of its lay and divide by the square root of the distance to the nearest tree, the result times the difference between the mean and average temperatures for the last month at that spot to even begin guessing on how it died. If that little bit of math is too much, you've waded too deep into technical concepts.
jerry adams – The Rs killed it.
eric chan – Who cares about dead bird anyway, it's overpriced and only for yuppies.
Mike Reid – If it's a Scottish hawk then it's probably just drunk, not dead. Did you smell its breath?
Franco Darioli – Wow, that looks an awful lot like a Contrail without the apex guyline.
Dean Fellabaum/Rog Tallbloke – Man had something to do with it. Did not.
Doug Ide – Probably saw some poor BPLer wiping his butt with a pine cone and died laughing.
Hope this helps.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm #1909873
Doug, good thing I just put a diaper on. That's fantastic.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm #1909874
Doug- you definitely have the pulse of this site-great stuff!
I hope some of those guys see it :)Sep 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm #1909876
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
(from the Monty Python dead parrot routine)
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
Mr. Praline: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
–B.G.–Sep 6, 2012 at 7:43 pm #1909881
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
Doug – Ha ha haSep 6, 2012 at 7:43 pm #1909882
I kinda feel like that Monty Python guy with the dead bird.Sep 6, 2012 at 7:47 pm #1909884
Franco DarioliBPL Member
by golly, there is a tent design in there.
That poor bird died for the cause , long live the bird .
FrancoSep 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm #1909896
@sschloss1Locale: New England
Now that I look at the pics more closely, I'm pretty sure it's a young Cooper's Hawk (the slightly larger cousin of sharp-shinned). In any event, it's not a merlin or any kind of falcon.
If you'd picked it up, you'd notice right away if it had flown into a tree because the neck would be obviously broken. Did you pick it iup? I sure would've (of course, I'm an ornithologist, so that's kind of my thing).Sep 6, 2012 at 8:31 pm #1909899
Sorry Scott I'm not into dead chicks like you:)
I didn't pick it up but I think I know what you mean about being able to see if the neck was broken. I was about to reach down, but I'd been nursing an infected finger cut since before the trip even started, so I figured I'd give hygiene a try and leave the dead stuff alone. I just gave it a toe push and don't remember if the neck was limp or not.
Anyhow, I learned some stuff in this thread, and I got some laughs too. I suppose I'll end this with a killer pic from this trip…perhaps the best sunset ever (not photoshopped! — credit goes to Brad Rogers):Sep 6, 2012 at 8:38 pm #1909900
Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
Obviously done in by someone's unleashed dog.Sep 6, 2012 at 8:43 pm #1909901
@fluffinreach-comLocale: no. california
Probably George Bush.
i've found that with problems, it's usually George Bush.
if it's bad, and there is no doubt a rational answer for it. we've had a good bit of success blaming George Bush.
heck .. give it a try !
… millions do.
it saves lord only knows how much actual thinking. and it's FAST !Sep 6, 2012 at 8:54 pm #1909906
Yeah, it was probably friggin' Barney:Sep 6, 2012 at 9:02 pm #1909909
Stephen BarberBPL Member
Another vote for a merlin, "prairie" phase.
Yellow feathers = warbler or goldfinch.
Death – likely head-on collision with something solid.
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