Topic
Does this piece of gear exist?
Forum Posting
A Membership is required to post in the forums. Login or become a member to post in the member forums!
Home › Forums › Gear Forums › Gear (General) › Does this piece of gear exist?
- This topic is empty.
-
AuthorPosts
-
Sep 2, 2012 at 11:35 pm #1293651
Wondering if this piece of gear is out there that would fit my needs perfectly.
Needs:
1. Rain fly for my hammock
2. Poncho/pack cover
3. Enclosed tent that will be sparely when not in my hammockI know there are lots of poncho tarps out there but would there be one that would have a bugnet and floor that could be added to it to make a tent? Anyone know of one piece of gear that could do all three of these things?
Probably easier to get a poncho tarp than find some bug bivy to add to it somehow. Anyone use a set up like this and have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Sep 2, 2012 at 11:48 pm #1908605You don't want the enclosed tent features connected to the poncho/pack cover… everyone I know who has tried to experiment with something like that has regretted it, even when it was just perimeter bug netting attached to the poncho/tarp. As to the poncho/tarp and hammock… you might want to look at sgt rock's hammock poncho/tarp
–mark
Sep 3, 2012 at 4:40 am #1908619The Gatewood Cape by Six Moons Design is probably your best bet.
It is designed to be a ground shelter, but it could be used over a hammock too.
When used as a ground shelter, it offers full 4-side coverage, and can be pitched down tight, or also several inches off the ground for ventilation. It's very hard to beat if you want all 4 sides covered, with a door that you can open and close.
It has been around a while, and has a reputation of being able to stand up to some storms and wind if it's pitched well.There is an optional "Serenity Tent" bug-tent with floor that can go inside, making a double-walled tent. Fights both bugs and condensation woes. It's separate, so you don't have to bring it or use it on days when you think it wouldn't be wanted.
Together, they make quite a lightweight double-walled enclosure, and in fact it would be one of the lightest double-walled shelters anywhere, at about 19 ounces.
Not the world's lightest shelter for sure, but for a double-wall it's very light. And it gives dual use as a poncho.Speaking of the poncho use, some like it and some don't think it's the greatest for a poncho. It's long, and it has arm slits. Some don't like the arm slits, and some say it drags too low and doesn't have a good tie-up belt. But, it's a poncho and it covers you and your pack, and it has a hood, and it's silnylon and weighs 11 ounces by itself. It's certainly better than no poncho, and it will do the job.
Considering the dual-use nature, it might be the overall lightest and most versatile piece of gear around, if you can work it into your way of doing things.
Probably not for everybody, but for some people it is probably the best combination product around.Mountain Laurel Designs also has a poncho-tarp for just a little higher price, and it's probably better as a poncho, but probably not as good for coverage and protection as a shelter, and it is a little smaller.
I guess it depends on which functions are most important to work the best, and what you can compromise on.Alternatively, if you are rich, you could buy all separate items made from cuben fiber and still come out lighter, but it might be more bulky to carry it all.
Maybe a cuben Gatewood Cape might be nice, but they don't make one(as far as I know).I think it comes down to whether you want to carry a poncho for your rain gear. If you do, then these poncho-tarps offer something good. If you'd rather use a raincoat, then these poncho tarps lose their dual-use nature, and then they just become shelters which are not as light weight as you could get from some other plain shelter tarps.
One other option is to just get a flat tarp out of whatever material you like best, in the size you want, and wrap the tarp around you like a cape in the rain, with part of it over your head like a hood. That can be done too.
But, to meet that "enclosed tent" part of the requirements that you stated, the Gatewood Cape is your best bet. Everything else is a poncho-tarp, and the Gatewood Cape is a poncho that actually makes a floorless tent when you set it up. It's essentially identical to the SMD Wild Oasis tent, but it has a hood. And it can be paired with the matching bug-tent made to fit it, which gives bug protection and dual-wall condensation protection.
It's a pretty nice package, and SMD is fairly well-known and respected.Sep 3, 2012 at 8:59 am #1908653Thanks for the helpful post. My least concern is the poncho so maybe I'm better off just getting the nice tarp for the cover and than wrapping up in it if I have to walk in the rain. Poncho idea was just for the emergency. Anyone ever use the zpacks cuben fiber hammock tarp as a ground shelter?
Sep 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm #1908864Thinking of now just getting a nice tarp that would work as a hammock fly when I'm going that route or a ground shelter and than get a bivy when I choose that way.
I'll just pick up a light rain jacket, probably a price of gear I should have anyways
Sep 5, 2012 at 10:48 pm #1909542Hennessey Hammocks sells a tarp with some zipper half pieces on one edge. When zipped up, you have a hoodless rain cape.
Tom Hennessey often patents any feature he can.
You might have to install the zipper pieces yourself. Clever positioning of the zippers might give you a collar on your neck and overlapping flaps at the opening in front.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Forum Posting
A Membership is required to post in the forums. Login or become a member to post in the member forums!
Our Community Posts are Moderated
Backpacking Light community posts are moderated and here to foster helpful and positive discussions about lightweight backpacking. Please be mindful of our values and boundaries and review our Community Guidelines prior to posting.
Get the Newsletter
Gear Research & Discovery Tools
- Browse our curated Gear Shop
- See the latest Gear Deals and Sales
- Our Recommendations
- Search for Gear on Sale with the Gear Finder
- Used Gear Swap
- Member Gear Reviews and BPL Gear Review Articles
- Browse by Gear Type or Brand.