Mar 24, 2012 at 9:06 am #1287745
I've never heard of 'Fair Trade' products. Have you? I am intrigued and would like to support it. Next is to google for local LA shops.
Britain claims itself the biggest market for 'fair trade' goods. I think we can do much better — simply because we are so much bigger. All the times reading about exploitative Wal Mart tactics, maybe it's time to switch? Anyway, you can read more about it here.Mar 24, 2012 at 9:08 am #1858624
Chris WBPL Member
I buy a fair bit of "fair trade" stuff here, but we have a local market that's very supportive of such things so it's easy to find.Mar 24, 2012 at 9:17 am #1858629
Can you share what you know about Fair Trade… and in your area, are the products noticeably more expensive than standard supermarket fare? The CNN article about Britain claims that prices are the same over there. I have my doubts about how all this is done here.Mar 24, 2012 at 9:20 am #1858630
Chris WBPL Member
IIRC it has to do with paying "fair" market value, ensuring the workers are paid a living wage, have good living conditions, working conditions, etc. Prices here run about the same as other organic products and all of the fair trade stuff I've seen is also organic. Chocolate and coffee are very easy to get a fair trade items. Most of our produce, etc. sold in the stores is from local farms so there's not much trade there. I did get some fair trade bananas a couple of weeks ago though.Mar 24, 2012 at 10:13 am #1858645
Thanks, Wallace. I'll read up more about this.Mar 24, 2012 at 10:27 am #1858650
Katharina LångstrumpBPL Member
@kat_pLocale: Pacific Coast
From what I have read, the Fair Trade Certification isn't really what we want to believe it is. Only a small amount of farmers get it and since there is a glut in that market, the certification is restricted, which ends up hurting most small farmers. Also, often the same certified farmers will sell their better product to the free market and the lesser to the Fair Trade. I think it probably is a good idea, but there is more looking into it to be done, before "buying " it.Mar 24, 2012 at 12:15 pm #1858696
@socal-nomadLocale: North San Diego county
I drink a lot of Tea most of the major companies have fair trade tea line in their product line the price are about $1.00 to $5.00 more expensive then non fair trade product.
Most of tea in the world comes from Plantations in India and the other countries in the region.
So when they say fair trade you have to remember the cost of living in that region is very low. So a fair trade plantation worker are probably only making about $50.00 to $100.00 in their currency more per year than the non fair trade plantation workers. So it may only be $1000.00 per year living wage in USA currency.
When my family had a Avocado ranch back in the 1970's we hired a migrant worker named Piadad from Mexico. My Father paid him $50.00 a day for 10 hours work we fed him lunch, beer,sodas,gave him breaks and sometimes he would stay for dinner with us . Our fellow rancher were real ticked off at my Dad because he paid him more than the $20.00 a day they were paying the other workers.
Piadad worked so hard he really deserved more money. I tried to keep up with him a couple time clearing chaparral in one day and I would quit mid day because I was so tired it felt like I did 2 days work in one morning trying to keep up with him.
Piadad worked for us every weekend we owned a ranch. When he went home for Christmas my Mom gave him a couple boxes with clothes and cookies for his family,My Dad gave $100.00 Christmas bonus. Pidadad would show back up around mid January worked every weekend we were down at our ranch. So I guess we owned a fair trade avocado ranch his family in mexico lived a good life because of the work he did here for us.
TerryMar 24, 2012 at 12:24 pm #1858697
Kat: I too have a concern whether the 'fair trade' label is akin to 'green' or 'eco' labels that can mean anything and everything this day and age.
Terry: Kudos to your parents. I think there is something to be said about paying prevailing rates… but then, there should also be rewards for working hard, being dependable and being loyal. After a while, even the worker doing the lowliest of jobs can feel like part of the family.Mar 24, 2012 at 1:29 pm #1858722
@cameronLocale: Idaho Falls
I would argue the majority of what we buy is "fair trade." If both parties agree to a transaction and feel its in their best interest than its a "fair" treade. Its only unfair if force or fraud are involved.Mar 24, 2012 at 2:58 pm #1858751
Joe ClementBPL Member
Seems like another PC way to ease the conscience of the terminally guilt-ridden. Kind of like living in an area that doesn't allow wind turbines, but insisting on getting wind power on your electric bill. But maybe I'm just cynical.Mar 24, 2012 at 10:39 pm #1858992
Ben said: "I've never heard of 'Fair Trade' products. Have you?"
So you've never heard and/or used this:Mar 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm #1859586
Shocking, but nope, never noticed. Don't use soap out in the wilds. I prefer antibacterial wipes.Mar 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm #1859587
Aww Joe, I would'a thought you passed 'maybe' a long time ago…..;-)Mar 26, 2012 at 2:28 pm #1859594
Joe ClementBPL Member
Have you been talking to my wife?Mar 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm #1859606
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I try to buy the best product available if it is within my budget, irrespective of any label on the product. And no, Joe, I don't feel the least bit guilty.Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 pm #1859616
Yah don't care. Just another do good label.
The best deal for me is only fair.
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