Apr 18, 2011 at 7:27 am #1272436
Story in today's Sac Bee about yosemite reservations. Should have known. Really sad. Any suggestions?
Scalpers Flipping Yosemite ReservationsApr 18, 2011 at 7:33 am #1725983
Don't buy from scalpers.Apr 18, 2011 at 7:45 am #1725991
Michael LBPL Member
This is just the market correcting itself. :)Apr 18, 2011 at 8:01 am #1725994
"Any suggestions? "
Avoid summer and embrace the off seasons!Apr 18, 2011 at 8:06 am #1725995
@foundLocale: Sacramento, CA
I just finished that article! It blows me away.
+1 for not buying from scalpers.Apr 18, 2011 at 8:42 am #1726013
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
Sports events have the same problem
Sometimes there are counterfeit tickets sold to complicate things
In the Enchantments, they have a lottery system, there's an extended period to submit requests and then they choose winners. That would fix part of the Yosemite problem.Apr 18, 2011 at 1:19 pm #1726165
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
The solution is to stay just outside the park boundary. No fee. No reservations.
–B.G.–Apr 18, 2011 at 1:31 pm #1726175
drowning in spamMember
The guy in that article said he goes on Craigslist and flags people selling Yosemite reservations. If you guys want to do the same, here's a search that pulls up nationwide results.
Sorry for the tinyurl link. I hate doing that. It's my first time. The Searchtempest.com link is too long or complicated for the BPL website software to work with.Apr 18, 2011 at 1:38 pm #1726178
@scott_gusLocale: Northern California
I've never done half dome and now I do not want to.. to many people, to crowded. I want to be where they are never going to go. I flagged a few last night after a friend told me he saw them listed for as high as $75.
ScottApr 18, 2011 at 1:42 pm #1726182
Cayenne RedmonkBPL Member
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
Respond to the ads. Get their contact information. Share it. Flag the Ads.Apr 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm #1726195
drowning in spamMember
Cameron. That's a good idea. Waste their time. Make it such a hassle that they give it up.Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 pm #1726233
Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
Why don't they make them non-transferable?
The park gets the money even if the party doesn't show up. Then there would be a few less people to wade through and the park gets paid. Win/ winApr 18, 2011 at 5:04 pm #1726269
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Why not just make all of Yosemite a designated wilderness area? We could even tear out all the asphalt roads :)Apr 18, 2011 at 5:43 pm #1726300
@fluffinreach-comLocale: no. california
yosemite valley is hardy the untouched unmolested wilderness that it might once an extremely long time ago have been. they just recently took out the hydro electric plant (and did a pretty slick job of it too. and it cost god knows what to do it that way)
and the reason You want, really truly want, roads and campsites with showers and pottys, and a better bar, and perhaps even bring back the gas station is this.
we are old.
we are few.
we are wearing out.
there's nothing of note behind us, just a soggy batch of softass loosers who are led by the nose from one outrage to another.
and if no young children wake up in yosemite valley on a cold morning and eat crappy half-cooked pancakes from a coleman stove while their parents bithc at each other, how they going to learn to fall in love with the wilderness ? how ? eh ? how ?
because their parents/grandparents take them ultaralight backpacking ?
give me a break.
it ain;t happens often.
we need to make some places accessable to normal people to the little ones can partake of the greatness of it all.
the valley was trashed a century ago. it's not going to be the same. ever.
(and for one it will never be the same because i rode my dirt bike in their merced river.)
but FANTASTIC use can be made of it as a way to enlighten others on the wonders of the outdoors.
and that is why you/we want people camping and being fat and walking and bicyle'ing and strolling and looking at the rocks, and eating slurpies (and terrible pizzas), and meeting people form ALL over the world in the lounge at camp curry on rainy days, and freezing in the phitty tent cabins and generally being the slovenly goons like people are .. in yosemite valley.
so we will have enough sentient caring bodies later on to know the difference between a good hydro project, and one that could, but perhaps should, not be built.
you toss folks and kids out of yosemite … you're eating your seed corn.Apr 18, 2011 at 5:50 pm #1726304
Steven ParisBPL Member
@saparisorLocale: Pacific Northwest
Peter, you seem sad.
You should go see a movie, like "Atlas Shrugged".Apr 18, 2011 at 6:03 pm #1726313
@fluffinreach-comLocale: no. california
the tickets are for the weekends? right ?
go on a weekday anyway to avoid the crowd (which can be kinda fun actually).
you will find a bit late in the season and on a weekday, that halfdome is a rather nice adventure.
and a filter is you care to.
do not fall into that insensitive morass of pumping water at the top of the second falls on a blisteringly hot saturday afternoon so you can hit on new zealand co-eds. because it's just crass… and it's tacky.
i'm simply doing my best to warn you that there are less than fully scrupulous individuals out there, and that they may try and "lead" you into something not particularly wholesome.
v.Apr 18, 2011 at 6:46 pm #1726339
Rick DreherBPL Member
@halfturboLocale: Northernish California
Nope, the permits are required seven days a week.
Then there's this:
NOTE: This hiking permit is transferable, but cannot be resold or auctioned.
Resale of this permit is a violation of Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations, section 1.6. You are allowed to give this permit to anyone else, but each permit can only be used once.
They'll have to deal with the reselling, hard to guess how, without knowing how the current system is designed and managed.
p.s. I doubt the cables will be up by the scheduled date.
p.p.s. Something wrong with Kiwi coeds?Apr 19, 2011 at 6:28 am #1726490
@carlbeckerLocale: Northern Virginia
IMHO everyone should get info from the scalpers and report them and or make a charge against them. Unfortunately I have to do this at home with people who trespass or will not clean up after their dogs. I have a dog and clean up after her.Apr 22, 2011 at 4:33 pm #1728165
Jason TorresBPL Member
As Rick has posted, permits are now needed 7 days a week. This changed last year. My fiance and I did half dome in Nov 09 on a Tuesday – no permit necessary. Probably a change for good since even on a Tuesday the trail was jammed on the way down. Winter hiking is tops.
+1 for not buying from scalpers.
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