Jun 21, 2010 at 6:50 pm #1260392
Maybe I should carry a gun in the backcountry….Jun 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm #1622183
@intothemysticLocale: PNWJun 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm #1622221
Sad stuff. But Doug, did you watch the video?Jun 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm #1622223
I did. Pretty wild stuff. Strange how the bear just suddenly started charging like that out of the blue! And incredibly fast!
I have no experience whatsoever with Grizzlies. Not sure I want any!Jun 21, 2010 at 9:49 pm #1622236
Its like it smelled him, didn't quite spot him, and then charged. Always iffy when a mama is with cubJun 22, 2010 at 1:04 am #1622275
@rezniemLocale: San Francisco
amazing video. Humbling to see how quickly it moved.Jun 22, 2010 at 5:21 pm #1622518
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
"Humbling to see how quickly it moved"
Yup. What I'm wondering is: With 400# of roaring, slavering grizzly closing on you at 40 mph, your adrenaline pumping, and that warm, wet feeling spreading down your leg,
just what do you think your chances of stopping it with that decidedly non UL gun you've been lugging around would be? Personally, I'm looking at a number far to the right of the decimal point.Jun 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm #1622534
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
If you wound the bear rather than killing it dead, a highly likely scenario, all you'll do is make the bear even madder!Jun 22, 2010 at 6:15 pm #1622540
@kennyhel77Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Mary, I do think there was some scarcasm in the posts. Though a charging Griz is quite scary. You have more of a chance getting killed driving to the TH.Jun 22, 2010 at 7:26 pm #1622554
It's amazing that he had enough presence of mind to aim high as the article states. Given some of the hand gun shooting I've seen I'd wager he actually just missed.
IMO if you think you need a gun for bear then the only way to have a decent chance of getting a good shot off is to have a set of engagement rules worked out and memorized, the gun at the ready anytime you know a bear is around, and a lot of practice under your belt. However, I think most people who carry a "bear" gun just need a security blanket to make them feel better. If I was in bear country and worried about problem bears I'd probably choose a modern .45-70 firing some nasty hand loads and not take my chances on any handguns not chambered for rifle cartridges.Jun 22, 2010 at 8:36 pm #1622573
Yes – my original post was really sarcasm with respect to carrying a gun. What shocks me is that this fellow saw the mama and her cub and still decided to stay and take some pictures.
The smart one would have been gone long before giving the bear the opportunity to charge!
One other thing. I find it odd that the cub followed like that. It is almost as if the Bear was spooked from behind, rather than first sensing the photographer.Jun 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm #1622576
@cameronLocale: Idaho Falls
I don't claim to be a bear expert but I wonder if this was a bluff charge or at least started that way? It looked like to me the bear didn't take the most direct route to the guy. I wonder whether backing away would have been a good idea?Jun 22, 2010 at 9:00 pm #1622581
@junctionLocale: Atlanta, GA
Not even close. That guy is lucky to be alive. I don't know if he missed on purpose or not, but i'm glad both walked away unharmed.Jun 24, 2010 at 9:26 am #1623000
OK, I'll feed the troll.
Another couple glad they did.Jun 24, 2010 at 9:37 am #1623005
"Fister's statement read that "it is legal to carry a firearm in the (original) portion of the park, but it is not legal to discharge it."
Now THAT is hilarious. I wonder if the Bear's family will sue?Jun 24, 2010 at 10:58 am #1623041
Sounds like the SCOTUS will release report on McDonald vs
Chicago on Monday with Alito writing.
This will basically decide if the 2nd amendment applies to
the states as well as the Federal Government.
Did you know up till now the 2nd amendment didn't apply to you
except in Federal Jurisdictions like DC?
The 1st does, but not all of them.Jun 24, 2010 at 11:06 am #1623043
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@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
Bring your gun — or not. Personally, it's people who chat endlessly on their cell phones that really bother me.Jun 24, 2010 at 5:28 pm #1623142
Here is a bear mauling. Gun didn't seem to help this time.http://headlines.verizon.com/headlines/portals/headlines.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=headlines_portal_page__article&_article=2884599Jun 24, 2010 at 6:53 pm #1623157
David – wow.Jun 25, 2010 at 2:52 pm #1623437
Montana Camper got his ear chewed while sleeping. Black bear
Runner chewed on by two griz.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/jun/11/man-attacked-by-grizzly-bear-says-survival/Jun 25, 2010 at 2:59 pm #1623440
Last Saturday hiking on the Kettle Crest Trail, we saw both
old and fresh wolf scat as well as elk scat. I know there are
3 wolf packs with 100 miles of the area. Am wondering if they
are just ranging or if a new one is taking up residence here.
Also saw some calypso orchids. First time I have seen orchids
wild around here.Jul 1, 2010 at 1:11 pm #1625389
@magillagorillaLocale: Southwest Ohio
Best defense against wild predators is to bring a hiking partner who cannot hike or run faster than you………. I know old joke.Jul 1, 2010 at 1:21 pm #1625392
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
Predators like mountain lions and grizzly bears will seldom go after a group of humans, and the larger the group, the safer. OTOH, if you look like a petite solo hiker, you look like lunch.
–B.G.–Jul 1, 2010 at 2:01 pm #1625409
Yep, bears don't like multiple people. If they see one person, they may stick around out of curiosity or they're just not that afraid. But two or more people? They high-tail it quickly.
This is my personal experience with blackies, so take it FWIW.Jul 1, 2010 at 9:08 pm #1625576
I have seen habituated black bears come into camp when their
were a dozen people about. Heck, drive through Yellowstone
sometime and see hundreds of people watching the bears.
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