Jetboil Sol Ti Premium Cooking System Review

Thank you for the excellent and thorough review.

For readers' info, the individual component weights of my Jetboil Sol Ti are as follows:

Jetboil Sol Ti (in oz.)
7.15 (pot + burner only w/ foil lid)
7.80 (pot + burner + stock lid)
8.40 (pot + burner + lid + Sol cozy)
8.55 (pot + burner + lid + mod'd cozy)
9.55 (pot + burner + lid + Sol cozy + black cup)

Lid…………………………………………….. 0.65
Stove…………………………………………. 3.45
Pot…………………………………………….. 3.70
Black Original Jetboil Cup…………….. 1.00
Gray Translucent Stock Cup………….. 1.20
Gray Stock Cozy………………………….. 0.55
Black Mod'd Original Cozy…………….. 0.70

(I cut an original Jetboil cozy down to the size of the Sol pot and slimmed the handle up significantly. I did this because of reports of the stock cozy sliding up and the original having better insulation and fitting more securely)

Hey, I like this stove and pot kit. The connection setup is similar to an old camera lens bayonet mount attachment, with a twist lock. May take some getting used to remove and replace confidently without spillage or scalding. You can also tweak the fit by bending the lip of the burner in or out to adjust the friction fit against the pot with a pair of pliers. Jetboil does warn against heating the pot while empty. They also mention that you should not allow food to burn onto the bottom of the pot, as it may over heat and damage the fins on the bottom. I wonder if it has anything to do with the dark burn spot retaining more heat against the heat inductors on the bottom. Any complaints about the piezo system is just like every other complaint about them being buggy, nothing new. Keep your pots clean and always bring a lighter. This coordinated approach to integrated cooking systems is the wave of the future. I’d like to see a larger pot available in titanium, maybe a titanium frying pan for the backcountry gourmet. Dream on lightweighters.

When calculating the step-in weight for this system, should the weight of an empty canister also be included? You can run this without a canister, and only the fuel gets consumed.

–Mark

Thanks to a gould for the weights above. A caution thought on the older black cup if you are BPA sensitive. I received this email on 10/17/2011 from Heather Fernandes, Consumer Relations, JetBoil Inc, "…all of the plastics that we use are BPA free." I'm not sure if that applies to the older cup that came with the original JetBoil.

I've been using the BushBuddy for over a year now whenever regulations would allow an open fire. I love the light weight! But on a recent trip, my companions were all using JetBoils, and the efficiency of boiling on the JetBoils was very impressive! Then came this report, and I folded – One JetBoil Sol Ti on the way!

I'll still be using my BushBuddy where it's allowed, but given the regs in dry SoCal, I expect the JetBoil to get a lot of use.

(Note: I used a Snow Peak Giga prior to the JetBoil where regs prohibited the BushBuddy).

I have just recently ordered in sale $101 total cost a Sol Ti.

I've just biked down to the local REI to look at a Sol Ti ($149+tax) and also to buy a Jetboil 100g and 230g fuel canisters. I also played with the Jetboils on the shelf and looked at the fuel canisters.

I'm a 30yr Trangia veteran, with 2L pot cooking habits, who is seeking to learn 1-pot meals to get a lighter pack. The Sol Ti will take me from roughly 1.6Kg down to 500g for a 5day trip, and volume will shrink in roughly the same proportion.

So here's a few issues I'm not sure why Jetboil made the decisions they made:

– The Jetboil 100g fuel canister (gross 194g, $5) is narrower than the inside of the 0.8L Sol pot. Why? It rattles surely. Why not a little tighter?

– The Jetboil 230g fuel canister (gross 356g, $6), is only slightly wider than the pot, a little wider pot would be a snug fit. This canister would give you more than double the duration of fuel (roughly increasing from 12L to 28L) for only 162g additional weight, and the canister costs only $1 more so all that additional fuel is nearly no cost. Why did Jetboil select that particularly pot diameter? Its wide enough so that a 100g canister rattles loose inside, but a tiny bit more pot width would perfectly fit a 230g fuel canister? A cynic would say so they make more profit on 100g canisters?

– 0.8L pot size. For boiling water, that is perfectly ok, I'd rarely boil more than 0.5L, my Trangia 0.6L kettle ample, so the space above between 0.5L and 0.8L for water bubble, but if you turn the flame down and attempt to cook, you need more like 0.9L-1L total volume so stirring doesn't push food out the top. I've tried cooking in 0.8L. Doable but trickier than 1L. As a Trangia user, I've had many many cleaning sessions with food which escaped the pot.

If you combine all of this, is there a different Sol Ti which could be made, which is ever so slightly wider to fit a 230g canister – to make the argument for this Sol Ti to be truly into the 10+ day range and for that little extra width to be joined by a little extra height and get a 0.9L or 1L pot? A Sol Ti "tour" or "large" option? It would weigh (excluding fuel) a little more (about 8% more as volume is cube of dimensions) and when you put a 230g canister be a 28L water boil system including fuel in the region of 11oz for the Jetboil + 12oz for the canister = 23oz total).

Overall, I'm wondering if too much minimalism has taken hold and a tad little extra would take the Jetboil Sol TI PCS into a different zone of longer lighter backpacking.

Jim yes I've seen the Sumo its on Jetboils frontpage now, and looking at online vids, implies if you get the Sumo Ti companion pot will turn a Sol Ti into a Sumo Ti? The burner looks the same one. Pot size is quite a jump up from 0.8L to 1.8L, interesting they feel 2 people need more than 2x the volume when in reality there is "stirring height" I'd say about 1"-1.5" needed at the top which is not doubled in height, so if they felt 0.8L for 1 person then say 1.5L for 2 people. The 0.8L pot could have made a fraction larger to fit a 230g fuel, probably about 1L, and not gone the whole massive jump up to 1.8L with the Sumo.

Back to the 100g / 230g canister options, I have nil canister experience, the Jetboil will be my first one, but simply playing with canisters in REI, the 230g only barely, say 2mm, fails to fit inside the 0.8L Sol pot. Is there a canister which is say 230g and slightly narrower? Also these canisters are not shaped optimized for volume, top is curved not flat, and the base is also curved not flat and raised up. I'm sure a canister shape can be made which contains more fuel and will fit in the Sol pot? Short of taking my pot along when its delivered and trying all the makes in REI, is there an answer? Are pots standard sizes, I don't think so as there are reviews of other pots not fitting. e.g
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gear/Stoves/Jetboil%20Sol%20Ti%20Advanced%20Cooking%20System/Test%20Report%20by%20Jennifer%20Koles/

I mention this as the weight advantages of canister improves with longer trips and larger canisters as gas's energy density wins over the canister's weight and the burner's weight.

Nigel – I have four canisters in my garage – MSR, Snow Peak, Primus, and an old Primus I found in the mountains that still has some gas in it. All are very close to the same size except the old primus, which is a smaller diameter adn probably just what you want = but of course it's not made now. So my guess is there aren't any readily available 230gm canisters that are significantly smaller.
My other guess is that Jetboil has come to the conclusion that most of its customers will use the smaller canister almost exclusively, so they sized for that.
I'd be curious to see how my old primus canister does fit in the small jetboil pot – I wonder if you'd still have room for the burner unit in there.

I agree it's frustrating. Jetboil originally only sold 100 gram "Jetpower" canisters. Clearly the PCS was designed with that in mind.

Then they added 230 and finally 450. To me the "integrated system" is really only integrated if the canister can be left attached to the stove. I use 110 gram Snowpeak canisters for family day trips or solo summer backpacking since they were the most capacity that would fit inside. For family backpack trips we have used all different sizes. Our last trip was 8 days and we carried a single 450 gram can. Ended with probably 150 grams of fuel.

The Sumo was sized to fit a full Sol (including pot) inside. I'm sure the Jetboil engineers thought that was super-groovy. I think it would have made more sense to fit just the stove and pot support with a 450 gram fuel can, probably making it quite a bit shorter. The Sumo is still tall and narrow so not ideal for snow melting, but much better than the Sol.

If it's just boiling water you want, the 1 liter PCS is really as big as I can imagine needing. It safely boils about 3 cups or 750 ml at a time. That's enough for two mugs of hot drink or more than enough for any packaged dried meal. When my family of four is using it we find the capacity is fine- seldom are more than two people ready for hot water at the same time. The next batch is quickly ready.

If we're going to simmer a meal we bring a wider 1.75l non-Jetboil pan and the JB pot support.