May 27, 2014 at 10:29 pm #1317294
Having a hard time searching for this on older posts.
I'm looking for 1 strong tent stake for my hexamid. Ya know, the one in the front that takes all the weight.
What do you guys use?
I spend most time in the sierras if that helps.May 27, 2014 at 10:53 pm #2106422
MSR Groundhog. Can't go wrong.May 27, 2014 at 11:51 pm #2106433
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
MSR Ground Hog.
If'n yer really paranoid try an SMC snow stake or pointed snow anchor used for belays.May 28, 2014 at 6:16 am #2106475
I just use a standard shepard's hook stake. If the ground is a little dodgy, I put a big rock on it. Never had any problems.May 28, 2014 at 6:20 am #2106476
@aroth87Locale: Missouri Ozarks
I use Groundhogs too but have had good results with a ti shepard hook with a rock on top in a pinch like someone else said.
AdamMay 28, 2014 at 6:32 am #2106478
Groundhogs scored the best in 2008.May 28, 2014 at 6:52 am #2106484
"I just use a standard shepard's hook stake. If the ground is a little dodgy, I put a big rock on it. Never had any problems."
This is what I doMay 28, 2014 at 7:11 am #2106488
I use a groundhog for the front center of my Hexamid. Then i use a mix of mini groundhogs and Ti hooks at the other points. Has worked well.May 28, 2014 at 7:42 am #2106493
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
I never use stakes. I use rocks in the Sierra.Saves carrying the weight of stakes.
BillyMay 28, 2014 at 11:14 am #2106570
I'll probably get myself a groundhog.
But out of curiousity…can the smc snow stakes penetrate hard dirt?May 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm #2106596
Normally use just a standard titanium stake. I've done the rock on top of the stake in strong winds. I do carry a small titanium snow stake I got from Zpacks just in case I need something with more grab and there isn't a large rock laying around or if I'm in sand, but I've never needed to use it.May 28, 2014 at 12:12 pm #2106598
@barrypLocale: Eastern Idaho (moved from Midwest)
Ground hog stakes — ouch. It’s easier to push in titanium stakes. And Lawson stakes hold nice.
“But out of curiousity…can the smc snow stakes penetrate hard dirt?”
Nope. Shepherd hook stakes are the easiest for mountain soil.
-The mountains were made for tevas.May 28, 2014 at 12:35 pm #2106608
"can the smc snow stakes penetrate hard dirt?"
It depends. How hard is the dirt?
I start with an ordinary SMC snow stake (about 1.1 oz) and grind down the pointy end a little to give it a sharper edge. The metal is strong enough that it can be pounded down, but that depends on how heavy your sledge hammer is.
–B.G.–May 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm #2106613
@bookLocale: Northern California
I had the slightly unnerving experience of discovering that the front cord which came with my Hexmid was frayed from using the mitten hook attachment for the beak. This, as I was setting up in the wind and rain. So now I'm substituting stronger cord. Because, yeah, if this cord/stake fails, the whole tent comes down.
I don't like mitten hooks!May 28, 2014 at 12:50 pm #2106616
I use one SMC snow stake with a Gatewood Cape (it is also what I carry as a "cat trowel"). It can be a little difficult to penetrate hard dirt, but it also has a nice area on top to hammer on. It hasn't ever been a problem getting it set, sometimes I might have to move it a few inches to find dirt it will go into.
By the way, I've not experienced any adverse conditions to test how well it holds in dirt. However, it does seem to stand up well to me tripping on the line in the middle of the night.May 28, 2014 at 12:54 pm #2106618
"However, it does seem to stand up well to me tripping on the line in the middle of the night."
I solved that problem. I take the dull end of a snow stake and dip it in glow-in-the-dark paint. Assuming that the shelter is erected before sunset, the paint will absorb some sunlight and then it will glow faintly at night. Similarly, there is glow-in-the-dark cord.
–B.G.–May 28, 2014 at 1:39 pm #2106634
Chad “Stick” PoindexterParticipant
@stickLocale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
As others have said, I also use Lawson's ti hook stakes and they have worked quite well. However, about a year and a half ago now, I decided to start carrying 2 slightly larger diameter stakes for a little better holding power. I like the MSR Carbon Core stakes pretty well, although, for the price, I find it hard to recommend them… I picked mine up with a dividend balance and the 20% off discount.
I also have some of the Sorex stakes from Ruta Locura, and while I don't have the use with them like the MSR's or Lawson's ti hook stakes, I do like them…
Also, take note that both the front and middle back tie out are taking a huge amount of the load on this tent, not just the front stake. If you are concerned with this, I would suggest to carry 2 larger stakes and use them at the front and back, then pin the rest of the tie outs down with some ti hook stakes.May 28, 2014 at 1:46 pm #2106635
"I solved that problem. I take the dull end of a snow stake and dip it in glow-in-the-dark paint"
I like that idea, and going to try it. I just hope I don't get carried away, and start painting other gear with it.May 28, 2014 at 2:32 pm #2106652
"I just hope I don't get carried away, and start painting other gear with it."
Let strontium aluminate be your friend.
Anything that I might need to find at night, I prepare by painting it with a bit of glow-in-the-dark paint, or else sticking it with glow-in-the-dark tape. That includes headlamp, shelter stakes and poles, water bottle top, sleeping bag zipper pull, etc.
The glow is pretty feeble, but if my eyes are adjusted to night, I can see the glow.
–B.G.–May 28, 2014 at 3:57 pm #2106686
Where can you buy glow-in-the-dark paint? Does it stick well, or do you need to frequently repaint stakes?May 28, 2014 at 4:16 pm #2106695
There is Rust-Oleum brand specialty Glow In The Dark luminous latex paint. It comes in a 7-ounce can, so I find that handy for dipping things into it. Latex is not a hard paint, though, so sometimes I find it handy to harden it with a coating of clear fingernail polish.
There is Krylon Glowz spray paint, which comes in a 6-ounce aerosol can.
There is Glow-In-The-Dark luminous adhesive tape. This comes on a large roll, and it is often stocked by stage equipment companies. This is what they use backstage to put on all of the hard items to keep stagehands from bumping into them in the dark.
Let's take a metal shelter stake, for example. If you paint the top of it where it might be hit by a rock, then the glow stuff may disintegrate quickly. If you pick just about any other metal surface on the stake, then it will last longer. How long it lasts will also depend on how you prepare the metal surface. If you roughen up the surface with some sandpaper and then clean and dry it, that works the best.
Glow In The Dark micro cord is manufactured by the Atwood Rope Company and sold through a bazillion retailers. It is only 1.18mm in diameter, so it is not the best choice for some line locks on some shelters.
–B.G.–May 29, 2014 at 7:34 am #2106869
@zendragonLocale: Southern Arizona
I second this statement, this is all I use. There is also a smaller lighter version called the mini-groundhog that's just a inch or two shorter but otherwise identical.
Ive used these with my Tadpole 23 (not ultralight by any means), in 30-40 mph winds in both soft and hard dirt and I've never bent one. I've still had to put rocks on them (the minis) in the super soft dirt, but otherwise ne'er a problem with them. I usually carry 6 of them, just a hair over 2oz.May 29, 2014 at 8:07 am #2106880
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
The ground hogs or the 9" Easton stakes work best. SMC snow stakes work best in sandy soil. That being said, in the mountains I usually take titanium shepherd hooks.May 29, 2014 at 9:05 am #2106894
Two years ago I got one of these from a bag that Ron Moak had sitting around that I somehow ended up with in my bag after the GGG. (yes, I offered it back to him and he just did the famous Ron laugh – which, of course, is not a laugh, but more of a sigh – giggle) I have been using it for the last two years for my Hexamid Solo, Hexamid Pocket, Skyscape X, and now my Hexamid SolPlex. I have not yet found any ground I could not drive this sucker into. Crazy inexpensive too. I bought one at my local store, as a backup, for $1.89 last month.May 29, 2014 at 10:23 am #2106921
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I have a couple dozen of those from a time long, long ago. Strong, but heavy.
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