Mar 19, 2014 at 8:11 am #1314585
…. a quarter of Americans and a third of Europeans [do] not know that the Earth goes round the sun.
The American figure comes from research by the National Science Federation, a US government agency which has been asking this question as part of its survey of public attitudes to science since 1988. It asked a range of adults: "Does the Earth go around the sun, or does the sun go around the Earth?"
Tom W Smith, who carried out the poll at NORC, a specialist centre at the University of Chicago, says they sampled a group which reflects the whole population in terms of gender, age, education and ethnicity.
But why would so many people get this wrong? "Most of these questions involve having learned a scientific fact and remembering it," says Dr Smith.
"But if someone goes outside and observes the fact the sun rises in the east and sets in the west each day, that casual non-scientific observation might well lead them to take in the belief that the sun is revolving around the Earth."
The most recent research on this appears to be a European Union survey in 2005 which shows only 66% getting it right.
And other surveys over the past few years show that people in India and Malaysia don't do much better.
Article is here. Scroll down a bit….Mar 19, 2014 at 8:27 am #2084109
I was chatting with a European friend a number of years ago, and he said to me, "You Americans think the world revolves around the U.S. instead of the sun!"
I felt the need to correct him, and told him, "Actually, the world revolves around ME! I just happen to live in the U.S……"Mar 19, 2014 at 9:56 am #2084144
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@lyrad1Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
"the world revolves around ME!"
Thanks for the laugh and the wisdom. I think this view accounts for a lot of human ignorance and misbehavior.Mar 19, 2014 at 4:00 pm #2084319
It's this sort of ignorance that's helping the rise of the American Taliban.Mar 20, 2014 at 6:36 am #2084519
…and the Republicans.
[this is Chaff, right?]Mar 20, 2014 at 10:07 am #2084587
@jenmitolLocale: In my dreams....
That's because it's those pesky college elites who keep telling us that the earth revolves around the sun. And that it's ROUND. goodness me, of course it's not! How could I walk on it if it were round???
I have NO idea where this distrust and downright ridicule of the "elite" and those with educations comes from. Bobby Jindal was right about the GOP – it's becoming the party of stupid.Mar 20, 2014 at 10:31 am #2084597
"Tom W Smith, who carried out the poll at NORC, a specialist centre at the University of Chicago, says they sampled a group which reflects the whole population in terms of gender, age, education and ethnicity."
"I have NO idea where this distrust and downright ridicule of the "elite" and those with educations comes from. Bobby Jindal was right about the GOP – it's becoming the party of stupid."
Has Chicago become the GOP epicenter? Funny but I thought it was heavily weighted towards the DNC, like something in the neighborhood of 85%.Mar 20, 2014 at 12:46 pm #2084657
@davidadairLocale: West Dakota
liberalism is an elastic gooey mess of quasi-logic
there are no actual rules
if you need to call algebra a white conspiracy to hold black people down, you just do it
then everyone cheers and congratulates themselves for being intellectual and caring
-cyborg845Mar 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm #2084672
@kat_pLocale: Pacific Coast
What I am getting is that some believe people at large to be generally so "stoopid" that they ought not to be able to decide what to ingest, inhale, drive and so forth. Yet these same morons ought to choose/vote in people to make all those decisions for the rest of us.
No wonder we are screwed.Mar 20, 2014 at 2:46 pm #2084698
Funny and true!
Worse yet, I think we're at a point where our elections will be decided by which candidate can out-meme the other one. My retirement plan is a school bus parked in an undisclosed location in the Cascades and 1000 cans of chili. Beats the alternative.Mar 20, 2014 at 4:34 pm #2084729
@kat_pLocale: Pacific Coast
:) my retirement plan is not far off yours ..
What? Just being a liberal is not enough to qualify one as caring? Next you are going to tell me that the earth is not flat!
Among all the ways to describe people and put them in categories….I prefer to split us among the givers and the takers. Some are takers because they did not have enough at some point in life; some because they are lonely and long for the company that power might give them, some just take because they can't even fathom not doing it.
The above goes across economic lines as well as gender, ethnicity, sexual preference etc.
Still not good to split people into groups, if you ask me, but if are going to do it then "givers" and "takers" would be my choice.Mar 26, 2014 at 9:48 am #2086320
@tallblokeLocale: DON'T LOOK DOWN!!
The world is full of willing people. Those willing to work, and those willing to let them.Mar 29, 2014 at 1:45 pm #2087426
And as the comic says, "you can't fix 'stupid'l
After years in the automobile repair and computer hardware industries, I'm convinced that the bulk of the American population is technologically somewhere in the 12th Century. Electricity is still magic.Mar 29, 2014 at 2:24 pm #2087449
"Electricity is still magic."
In the right hands, it most certainly is…..Mar 29, 2014 at 3:20 pm #2087473
Three quarters of my family are IBEW linemen or utility administrators. Electricity is job security but not magic :)Mar 29, 2014 at 7:28 pm #2087541
"Electricity is job security but not magic"
I call bs.
What's not covered in this story is how he coded at the scene and then they revived him with even more electricity ala EAD. Pretty damn magical to me. Almost as good as how my coworker steals my nose and can separate his thumb then magically reattach it.Mar 29, 2014 at 7:36 pm #2087545
awww… you must be my little sister, or one of my nieces or nephews under a pseudonymMar 30, 2014 at 9:16 pm #2087926
Ian, you're on the downhill side of the water table from Hanford, right? Don't need a headlamp because you glow in the dark? :)
My father had injured lineman buddies come by the house with missing fingers and big scars from mishaps— and those were the ones that lived. Lineman are in the same insurance classification with Indy drivers and bartenders!Mar 30, 2014 at 9:52 pm #2087943
From speaking with a few of the psycho high voltage guys in this area, huevos of steel are certainly a job requirement.
Re: Hanford… mail me your gear, I'll dunk it a couple times in the groundwater, and you can glow too!May 31, 2014 at 11:46 pm #2107650
@nerrek2000Locale: North East Ohio
In the past year I've gotten quite a kick out of stupid people along these same lines.
On 3 separate occasions I've had discussions with people who truly believe that our sun and all other stars that can be seen in the night sky only seem to shine because of them reflecting light back toward the earth that shines on them from our moon.
So, I've been misled in Astronomy since a small child, even in college to believe that stars shine as a result of hot glowing gasses. Hmm… Maybe I should join the Flat Earth Society too. lol
Google that for a laugh. There's still in this day and age a very large group of people who truly believe that the rest of us have it wrong because the earth is really flat!
I'd loose my membership to ALPO (Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers) for that one.Jun 1, 2014 at 6:54 am #2107673
I got up to Deer Lake in the Trinity Alps. Someone fishing. I said hi.
He said he didn't believe amphibian numbers were lowering and they shouldn't be killing fish in alpine lakes. Then he said global warming was a conspiracy by climate scientists trying to get grants.
I asked him if he thought the world was flat. He said "no".
I continued on my way…Jun 2, 2014 at 10:31 pm #2108280
I wonder how many people know that the Sun revolves around our Milky Way's Galactic Core, which in turn probably revolves around the Super cluster of Galaxies in Virgo?Jun 2, 2014 at 10:37 pm #2108281
In the hands of Tesla it was magical seeming at times. In the hands of some other beings from other parts of the Uni/Multi-verse, it might as well appear as magic.Jun 3, 2014 at 7:12 am #2108344
How many people know the Milky Way is about to collide with the Andromeda galaxy?
It's going to rearrange all the stars in spectacular fashion. We may get expelled. Probably we won't collide with any Andromeda star.Jun 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm #2108874
In 4 billion years, i doubt humans will even be around. Not something we have to worry about.
Now, our Galactic Core going into super active states around every 13, 000 years or so, might be something to at least consider/ponder since we are a bit over due for a major outburst.
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