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Anyone used Ruta Locura carbon stakes?
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Mar 15, 2014 at 12:07 pm #1314429
Has anyone used the Ruta Locura Sorex (carbon) stakes, particularly in rocky ground such as the Sierras? How do they stand up to glancing off embedded rocks and stuff? Can anyone compare them in use to the MSR Carbon Core stakes? (Yes, I read Stick's blog, but he apparently hadn't used either when he wrote the blog.)
Mar 15, 2014 at 12:17 pm #2082993I've been using then for a while.
Pretty good in general; mostly the softer ground of Scotland.
I have broken one – in pretty much the situation you allude to – hitting a rock as I placed the peg (I'm English); that was in hard ground in Colorado last year.
I was tired and impatient – this may or may not have contributed to the fracture.
Mar 15, 2014 at 12:44 pm #2083000I've used them for years. I like them. Had a head come off one which I glued back on. I use the long ones (9"?).
I only use in soft ground where I can push them in by hand. I don't pound them in.
My tent requires 6 stakes so I carry 4 carbons and 4 skinny metal ones (e.g. needle stakes) to cover varying ground conditions.
Mar 15, 2014 at 12:48 pm #2083002I broke one in semi-frozen and rocky ground in Lost Creek Wilderness CO last November. Definitely the wrong peg for the conditions, but also operator error – it snapped in half when I put too push pressure on it.
Mar 15, 2014 at 3:43 pm #2083028I have both. The MSR's are more forgiving and I prefer them. I have had a couple of the Sorex stakes heads pop off when they weren't hit perfectly dead on center of the head.
Ryan
Mar 15, 2014 at 4:07 pm #2083036I like 'em. Always push them in by hand. Never tried to hammer one into the ground…that always seems like inviting disaster. From the replies above it looks like I guessed correctly.
I used to use MSR Groundhogs but replaced them with 9" Ruta Locuras for a significant weight savings AND a better hold. I've been carrying 8 of them for the past year for use on my Duplex. I am surprised that they show no signs of damage even though they have be scraped past rocks many times on the way into the ground. They are 2-3 grams heavier than TI shepherd hook stakes. I tied and glued a small loop of Triptease around each right under the head to facilitate removal and make them easy to see. If I know I will be in very rocky soil, I throw a few shepherds hooks in the bag for insurance.
Mar 15, 2014 at 9:27 pm #2083127Well, if you have to hammer the stakes in you might do damage.
Ive had no problems, I love them. I use 2 of them for my ridgeline only, I use the Ti ones as well and they are great too.
When I cant get them in the ground by pushing with foot, I put a piece of wood on top of the stake, and hammer the wood with with a rock. doesnt harm the stake or the rock.
If that doesnt work, its time to just use rocks.
Mar 15, 2014 at 9:48 pm #2083132I've only used the 9" ones. I've used them for mids and tents and haven't broken one yet. As others have mentioned, I don't hammer them. If I can't push them into the ground by hand, I either tie out to something else like a rock or I use the stake like a deadman anchor behind a pile of rocks (pre-made wind breaks are common in the cascades).
Mar 15, 2014 at 9:51 pm #2083134I have broken six of them over the last few years. Stopped buying them and have been using the L Stakes from SMD.
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:42 am #2083180I really like them, but like John I've broken three of the six that I bought…one if them on their very first outing. I think they are great for loose soils, but hit a rock and you're thru.
I, of course, was trying to use them in the desert (I'm a total desert noob here)…not a good idea. Just sayin'
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