Feb 19, 2014 at 12:44 am #1313502
Recently got one of these… just got to get my new Denali Llama out there to try it now !
It packs down very small and is pretty light weight at 310g for the smaller size (blue) AND 365g for the larger (red) one. The optional crotch strap adding 30g. It has 2 inflation chambers each with a dedicated spring loaded mouth valve.
It does not conform to any designated Standards and is not an accredited or certified PFD.
No afiliation etc just a customer passing on knowledge of new gear out there :)Feb 19, 2014 at 3:50 pm #2075203
I've got an inflatable PDF that uses the same type of valve as the Alpacka seats. It's a single chamber design that's used in the aircraft industry. Once I removed the CO2 canister it's 125g (4.4oz).
Obviously this isn't an accredited PFD. Model is EAM GA-12:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/lifevest2.phpFeb 20, 2014 at 5:05 pm #2075558
Good find Dave.
inflated ,comfort is good when paddling?or just tolerable?Feb 20, 2014 at 7:05 pm #2075604
I haven't actually taken it out paddling yet, so I can't really comment. Greg used one on the BMWO last year where we did nearly 50 miles of paddling and he spoke favourably of it. It's got a decent amount of float (17 lbs) but obviously your eggs are all in one basket with a single chamber. It basically looks like you're wearing an Alpacka seat.Jul 25, 2015 at 11:42 am #2216953
@wickdwarm_n_dryLocale: Central Ohio
There are a few of the airline "PFDs" (the EAM GA-12s) on eBay for under $15. For anyone who has seen them, do you think that they'd be sufficient under most circumstances on class 2 streams and lakes?Oct 27, 2015 at 7:30 am #2234269
Canyonlands has the following rule for flat water trips longer than 2 miles: "One approved, serviceable type I, III, or V personal flotation device (PFD) for each trip participant." What's the lightest type I, III or V PFD?Oct 27, 2015 at 9:16 am #2234305
@davecLocale: Crown of the Continent
The MTI Journey is well under 1 pound.Oct 27, 2015 at 11:37 am #2234348
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
>"There are a few of the airline "PFDs" (the EAM GA-12s) on eBay for under $15. For anyone who has seen them, do you think that they'd be sufficient under most circumstances on class 2 streams and lakes?" The expired ones I've played with are pretty sturdy. I'd feel okay in them in Class 1 and 2. I'd remove the CO2 cartridge and as much of the triggering mechanism as possible and inflate it by mouth. Practice before and make sure you can deflate it as well. I'm amused that you can clearly see in some of the eBay listing photos, "Theft of emergency equipment is a federal criminal offense" and the expiration dates of some of the lifejackets are from the 1990's, even the 1970's. My concern about them is not the usability, but the comfort. If it isn't comfortable to wear all day long, you won't. Any PFD you wear ALL the time you're on the water is better than one you don't.Oct 28, 2015 at 8:22 pm #2234719
@dlgregersonLocale: Bob Marshall Wilderness
Dave C: Is the MTI Journey what you use? It looks like a good, simple, light vest and a great price; my only concern is the lack of pockets. I've been considering the chance/likelihood of losing my packraft in a spill and needing basic survival/fire starting materials in the PFD if I can't catch up to the raft. I'm shopping for a PFD now, so the topic is very pertinent. Interested if others have suggestions of what has worked for them.Oct 29, 2015 at 10:48 am #2234824
@davecLocale: Crown of the Continent
I use an old Stolquist PFD I've had for ages. It's pretty similar to the MTI but a little heavier. Pockets in a PFD can be problematic, too much bulk up front can make getting back into your boat harder. For wilderness packrafting I stow firestarters and a flashlight in interior pockets of my upper body layers.
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