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    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Finally I have some progress worth showing. I have two of four panels finished. The screen is bonded to the cuben and overlayed with a one inch strip in the interior. The bond I am using is Aquaseal Urethane. The zipper is sewn on both the cuben side and the screen side. I am estimating that I will end of using about 1.5 oz of glue for the tent body.src="/backpackinglight/user_uploads/1183875444_02556.jpg" alt="Partially completed side" width="550" height="413">

    #1394740
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Anyone know why the photos are not showing?

    #1394741
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Partially completed side

    #1394742
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Door side still laying flat

    #1394745
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    Nice!!! Definitely look forward to its completion — and more pics! :)

    #1395274
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    I have completed the tent body. Here are pictures of it. Final weight of body and all the attach points is 9.1 oz. slightly better than my estimate. So I am on track for total weight under 24 oz. Here is the rough breakdown of the weights:

    tieout parts 1.3 oz
    Bonding 2.5 oz
    cuben 2.0 oz
    mesh 2.1
    Zipper 1.2

    Front view

    #1395275
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Here is the view from the back. Three stakes are required to stake it out. the little straight poles on the rear are built into the body.Rear view

    #1395304
    todd
    BPL Member

    @funnymo

    Locale: SE USA

    Beautiful!!!! Kudos to you.

    #1395362
    Mireille Halley
    BPL Member

    @tinyscrafts

    Locale: So Cal

    wow wow wow :)

    #1400887
    Mike Barney
    Member

    @eaglemb

    Locale: AZ, the Great Southwest!

    Great tent. Any Bill of Materials or Cost estimates?

    Thanks,
    Mike

    #1400904
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    What keeps the rain out?

    #1406159
    Michael Fogarty
    BPL Member

    @mfog1

    Locale: Midwest

    Very cool shelter, but whats the difference btwn. your shelter and using a solo tarp, with a floored bug bivy? This type of set-up could also qualify as a double wall of sorts?

    I think my MLD Grace Solo spinntex tarp and bug bivy weigh in at approx. 18-19oz including cordage and (8-12) stakes.

    #1406165
    todd
    BPL Member

    @funnymo

    Locale: SE USA

    Michael,

    I believe Scott's design has more headroom than most bug bivies. Also, Scott's door he made should be easier to enter/exit.

    Todd

    #1415786
    Ross Bleakney
    BPL Member

    @rossbleakney

    Locale: Cascades

    I think this tent looks really cool and was hoping to see a finished version sometime. Did you build a top for it?
    Thanks,
    Ross

    #1416305
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    It seems that I missed several posts over several months. Here is the update on this project. The only thing I have left is the rain fly, which will be all cuben bonded together. I have been sidetracked while making down sleeping bags for my kids. I have used the tent once without the fly and it worked pretty well. I hope to finish the rain fly before this summer.

    I can easily sit up in this tent with good head room and I am 6' 1"

    Bill of materials:

    I think I used about 7-8 yards of cuben at about $16/yard
    2 yards of nanoseem from Thru-hiker
    Two zippers
    Graphite pole from Fibrplex ~ $100

    Overall I have about $300 of materials in this tent. If you consider labor well… that's a different story!

    #1430310
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    I am making some progress on the rain fly. I should be done in a week or so. Here is a picture of the progress.Rain fly picture

    #1431330
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Rain fly is complete and it came in at 6.5 oz. So here is the final weight breakdown.

    Main body 9.1
    Rain fly 6.5
    Carbon pole 3.1 don't have this yet
    Stakes 1.7


    Total 20.4 oz

    I love cuben fiber!

    Here are the pictures:Tent with Rain fly closedTent with rain fly open

    #1431332
    Joshua Knapp
    Member

    @joshjknapp

    Locale: Northern Mn, Superior Hiking Trail

    Nice job on the tent! It looks pretty sick!

    #1431334
    Steven Evans
    BPL Member

    @steve_evans

    Locale: Canada

    20.4 oz for a ful double wall tent – not frickin' bad!

    That looks great too…tons of headroom. So, when is it going into production?

    #1431337
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    "So, when is it going into production?"

    You saw the dates on some of the early photos didn't you? I have thought about it but from a production stand point this tent design has a huge amount of hand labor. To make others at even a modest profit this would be one expensive tent. I think after tackling this one there are simpler methods/designs to get double wall tents in the less than 20 oz range using cuben.

    So we'll see I want to get some test days under my belt with it. Is there much interest out there for double wall tents?

    #1431338
    Devin Montgomery
    BPL Member

    @dsmontgomery

    Locale: one snowball away from big trouble

    Way to go, Scott! That's one good looking tent, and I can only imagine the relief after so many months. I'm more of poncho guy myself, but after trying some DIY I sincerely appreciate the completion of such a large project. You'll definitely get some turned heads if you run into other ultralighters on the trail.

    #1431339
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Scott
    That looks great. Congratulations on your stamina and persistence and on a job well done. Looks like a good mix between full weather protection and air flow for ventilation . If you get the time, can you please take a shot of it packed next to something like a Nalgene bottle so that we can see how small it packs ?
    Franco

    #1431341
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    "and I can only imagine the relief after so many months"

    Amen to that, there were times when I thought I just wasn't going to make it.

    #1431360
    Scott Van Doeselaar
    BPL Member

    @vandoe

    Locale: Southern CA

    Probably doesn't pack down as much as you would think. One limiter is the small poles built into the body. These poles are what is making it as long as it is. I have also found myself reluctant to fold it up too tightly. I put so much effort into it I am treating it with kid gloves. Here is a picture of rolled up package including the pole wrapped in the middle.Rolled up tent

    #1431391
    Steven Evans
    BPL Member

    @steve_evans

    Locale: Canada

    "Is there much interest in double wall tents?"

    Just take a look at big sky – seems someone is buying them! And heck, they're even waiting a year to get them! :)

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