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Sep 25, 2013 at 2:19 pm #1308064
http://www.backpacker.com/prof_hike_beginner_mistakes/skills/14472
6. Going ultra-light without ultra-experience
A regular backpacker going ultra-light is like a vegetarian becoming a vegan—it takes time to dial down a new, safe system. Definitions vary, but ultra-light hiking generally means having a base pack weight (your gear minus food and water) of 10 to 12 pounds. The advantage, of course, is that you have less weight to schlep, but your safety net also shrinks: You have fewer backup provisions (food, fuel, warm clothes) if things go wrong, like you fall in a river or rodents steal your food.The more backcountry experience you have, the more safely you can go ultra-light simply because you’re better equipped with skills to, one, avoid such mishaps and, two, improvise if they do occur. However, even expert mountaineers can pay the ultralight price. Think of Joe Simpson of Touching the Void fame: During his and his partner’s ascent of Siula Grande in the Andes, bad weather prolonged their climb, causing them to run out of fuel for melting snow for water—something that later would contribute to Simpson’s fall into a crevasse.
That’s why ultra-light hiking should be a gradual goal and not a first-time objective. Reducing pack weight is a skill you hone after much experimentation. So how much weight should you carry on a typical day-hike? Is it 10, 15, or 20 pounds? It all depends on the circumstances. If you’re hiking a dozen miles alone on a mellow trail, you can carry a sub-10 pound load of water, snacks, rain gear, headlamp, and the always essential map, compass or GPS. But if the trail is unfamiliar, tricky, or remote, and you’re hiking in a larger group, you might want to add a small first-aid kit, warm clothing, and extra water and food that pushes your weight north of 15 pounds. That’s because carrying more gear—along with the skills to use it—is your best strategy to reduce risk.
more at link
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Sep 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm #2028236That actually sounds quite reasonable to me. Why all the discussions here about how to get a taut pitch if a tiny cuben tarp was the best choice for anyone, etc.
Sep 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm #2028251Top ten Noob blunders?
Not taking enough water. Not taking enough food. Not taking enough clothing—particularly on top of a peak.
Not believing the signs that say "Stay out of the water–the rocks are slippery, and you won't get a second chance to make a stupid mistake."
Compared to those, using a Walmart tent or taking too large a first aid kit are way down on the list.
Sep 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm #2028258"Top ten Noob blunders? "
One person, who was complaining of a super heavy pack, was carrying a 6-pound bag of toiletries and cosmetics.
One person, who was impossibly slow on the trail, admitted to having been fasting for three days before the trip.
One person, who was having a difficult time on a supported trek up Kilimanjaro, admitted that it was the first time to have slept in a tent outdoors.
Geez! What were these people thinking?
–B.G.–
Oct 5, 2013 at 6:44 am #2030993"Not taking enough water. Not taking enough food. Not taking enough clothing—particularly on top of a peak."
I think that's true of day hikers. My experience has been that a lot of backpackers take too much food in the beginning and then later learn how much is just enough.
Oct 5, 2013 at 7:52 am #2030998I have been on both ends of that scale. Taking a picnic feast for an XC ski day trip and taking nought but a water bottle and windbreaker in the summer on the same loop. As with everything else, it's situational.
Oct 5, 2013 at 8:47 am #2031005Why regurgitate this crap from that crap publication from two years ago?
Why does Eric never post these things in On the Web?
Why does Eric post these at all?
Why, why, why….
Oct 5, 2013 at 10:36 am #2031025Why does Eric never backpack?
Why does he continue to throw jabs at ultralight backpackers on an ultralight backpacking forum?
Why does he hate Marmot?
Why, why, why….
Oct 5, 2013 at 11:06 am #2031031He must have a lot of time to surf the internet and post on his phone while belaying.
;)
Oct 5, 2013 at 1:09 pm #2031046AnonymousInactive"He must have a lot of time to surf the internet and post on his phone while belaying."
Eric's not doing much belaying these days, so this makes for a nice break from sitting all alone in his closet, fondling all his shiny new gear. ;0)
Oct 8, 2013 at 6:39 am #2031788i took my girlfriend to Dolly Sods, WV back in August. it was an interesting trip. i had hoped to cover 10-12 miles each day. we covered about 4.5 miles the first day, with me carrying her pack for the last mile or so. the next day was 4.5 back to the car and it easier with less water…
i knew what was in her pack, i watched her pack it. i tried to talk her out of carrying 128 ounces of water, but she refused. it impacted the trip in a very negative way. a year before we went on an overnighter on the AT and she carried too much water.
i found out on the car ride home from Dolly Sods that it was her 2nd time backpacking… she was embarrassed and nervous to tell me since i'm such a seasoned pro.
blunders happen for all sorts of reasons, i never thought i would be in part the cause.
we're working on overcoming her fears – the new approach is for us to hike in and setup a base camp and then do some day hikes until she feels more comfortable in the wild.
btw, her sleeping bag weighs 6 pounds.
Oct 15, 2013 at 7:29 pm #2034470B.S.
Id say the top mistake beginning HIKERS make is bringing too much stuff, and things that are too heavy and poorly made (i.e. cheap crap)
General b.s. misconception about UL. Anyone can be UL today just by buying $$ lighter gear and leaving the crap thats not needed at home. UL doesnt forego anything you need. And being an ultraheavy stupid beginner doesnt insure that you have anything you need either.
No experience necessary.
Oct 15, 2013 at 8:06 pm #2034476I totally agree. For example, you can buy an easy to set up, fully enclosed shelter that is way lighter than a dome tent instead of a more complicated to set up flat tarp.
Oct 15, 2013 at 8:17 pm #2034479on my first backpack… couple of centuries ago..
two of us… took a 2 pound box of C&H sugar !!!! lol
I think we tossed that the second day…Bill D
Oct 15, 2013 at 8:32 pm #2034481>"ultra-light hiking should be a gradual goal "
+1
Because I counted while I was in Scouts and it wasn't so many years after, I can pretty accurately estimate that it was after 150 nights of camping and backpacking that I started to go UL. 29 pounds including food and fuel for 9 days was pretty dang UL for 1983 (but other guys were more extreme). Ray Jardine wasn't quite so much the pioneer in the late 1990's he imagines himself to be.
And we all gained our skills over time.
Oct 22, 2013 at 4:03 pm #2036594I fundementally disagree with this statement.
You can now easily hike with all of the comforts and safety factors that every higher weight hiker does at a base weight of 12lbs maybe lighter. Doesnt even cost more other than the down bag and if you want a UL inflatable pad.
It takes some experience to push that down lower but even then not too much.
Oct 22, 2013 at 6:33 pm #2036687Rereading this again, I'll back off a little bit. I agree that you can jump on the UL bandwagon more quickly and easily than ever before. One doesn't have to be the slow learner I was.
Partly it is who you fall in with. If your first trips are with ULers and you start with that mindset, you don't have to unlearn so many bad habits. Whereas if you start on Scout trips or with some ex-military guys where half your body weight is the norm, it often takes time to reset your expectations.
There are ways I eat into safety margins (reasonably I think) because of hundreds of nights of experience. I suspect lots of us do.
Would you send a newbie out with as little, delicate gear, as you use yourself? I'd send a newbie out with slightly more fuel, food, and not my most fragile gear.
Oct 22, 2013 at 6:43 pm #2036699Maybe the reason some of us oldsters took a long time to go ultra-light is that ultra-light didn't exist until relatively recently
You don't need to start with heavy pack, tent, sleeping bag, boots,… to get experience before getting light ones
Maybe you need some experience before doing some "crazy light" things like using a small tarp in bad weather.
Oct 22, 2013 at 9:52 pm #2036777"ultra-light didn't exist until relatively recently"
What is relative recently?
Oct 22, 2013 at 10:02 pm #2036780What is relative recently?
50 years? relatively speaking.
Oct 23, 2013 at 6:50 am #2036865"What is relative recently?
50 years? relatively speaking."
Ray Jardine came out with "Beyond Backpacking" in 1999
I replaced my 5 pound tent with a 3 pound tent before that and experimented with just using the fly. The grandma that did the AT was much before that. etc. but that's not as popular until after Jardine's book.
Oct 23, 2013 at 8:52 am #2036918Some people were UL in the 70's and 80's and probably before. Backpacker had an UL article in the 80's. Colin Fletcher wrote about in the 80's in The Complete Walker III, calling it the New Wave. Jardine was late to the party but got credit and shekels ;)
Oct 23, 2013 at 9:59 am #2036946"Backpacker had an UL article in the 80's. "
1982. That was a starting point for a lot of us.
–B.G.–
Oct 23, 2013 at 4:44 pm #2037134"What is relative recently?
50 years? relatively speaking."
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Research George W. Sears, AKA "Nessmuk". He was doing ultralight in the 1800's, and writing about it.
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:39 pm #2037670These people were the original ULtra lighters! You can bet they only carried what they needed.
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