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UrSack okayed by Inyo

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Jul 8, 2013 at 10:23 am #1305123

Billy Ray
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@rosyfinch
Locale: the mountains

I just got off the phone with Inyo National Forest Wilderness Permit Office.

They confirmed that it is legal to use an UrSack…

Bill D

Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 am #2003748

Randy Martin
BPL Member

@randalmartin
Locale: Colorado

I have an Ursack, For those using it Bear country, I would plan to use the Aluminum liner insert with it.

Jul 8, 2013 at 11:27 am #2003750

Art …
BPL Member

@asandh

I have an Ursak with Aluminum liner which I have barely used because it was not approved where I went.
I have always been a bit questioning about the wisdom of that liner.
1. it adds weight
2. my food can still get crushed
3. the sharp edges seemed like they would actually help the bear tear thru the fabric if he was persistant enough

Jul 8, 2013 at 11:37 am #2003753

Randy Martin
BPL Member

@randalmartin
Locale: Colorado

My understanding is one of the key points of the liner is it makes it hard for the Bear to grab it by making the material around it tight. Kinda of like a football player wearing a tight jersey so they are more difficult to grab/tackle.

Jul 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm #2003782

USA Duane Hall
BPL Member

@hikerduane
Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada

I find the insert causes wear areas on the bag and is next to impossible if not impossible to get that last little bit of opening closed up to prevent mice from entry. I have the older version of the green, Kevlar bag. I guess its good I have hung onto it. I think it weighs around 20-21 oz. with the insert. Using just the bag in another week in Desolation, just for fun.
Duane

Jul 8, 2013 at 1:10 pm #2003783

Josh Brock
Member

@needsabath
Locale: Outside

Does this mean anything for the rest of california?

Sorry I have no clue how bear resistant container testing works… I was under the impression that only a couple agencies did testing for most all of california's national forest where bear cans are required.

Jul 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm #2003793

Kevin Burton
BPL Member

@burtonator
Locale: norcal

I imagine they throw a huge freaking steak in the bag and give it to a Grizzly in a zoo.

I'm serious actually.. I was reading on the Ursack site that they did that :)

Probably a good idea to give the bear the steak at the end just so that you're not cruel.

Jul 8, 2013 at 1:33 pm #2003795

Kevin Burton
BPL Member

@burtonator
Locale: norcal

I don't think cutting it will be practical. It's spectra… not going to cut easily.

I don't carry the aluminum liner. I have a fishing rod… if a bear destroys my food I'll just eat fish until I hike out.

I actually did this for a day a few years back when I underpacked food :)

Jul 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm #2003822

Hoot Filsinger
BPL Member

@filsinger
Locale: Pacific Northwest

The most current news on the Ursack website is June 5th.

Jul 8, 2013 at 4:10 pm #2003833

Greg Mihalik
Spectator

@greg23
Locale: Colorado

"Does this mean anything for the rest of california?"

Nope.

"I was under the impression that only a couple agencies did testing for most all of california's national forest where bear cans are required"

Only one, Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group, now disbanded to avoid law suits.

The Grizzly Discover Center does testing for bear containers in general, not specifically for California.
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