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    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    A few weeks ago I created this comprehensive guide on how to (and what to) pack for an overnight winter hut trip with the emphasis on keeping your pack light

    Hope you find it useful. And please don't be shy to add your comments and / or feedback

    You can read my packing light guide here

    happy trails!
    Mike

    #1971710
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    You could get a dictionary. It might help.

    –B.G.–

    #1971995
    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    I appreciate the keen eye B.G. Would you mind pointing out my spelling mistake?

    #1972027
    Jim H
    BPL Member

    @jraiderguy

    Locale: Bay Area

    I read your article. I can't speak to the intent of B.G.'s comment, but the article was awkward to read. A few things that broke up the flow for me were changes in narrative mode, awkward sentence structure, and odd formatting and syntax. I didn't even get to the list because I was put off by the introduction. If there is a language barrier at play, it would be worth mentioning so readers cut you some slack.

    #1972030
    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    Thanks for that Jim H. I really appreciate the feedback, just so you know I'm an engineer by training not a journalism major :-)

    Would you be into helping me rewrite some of it?
    The list is good you should see if you can take a look through it for completeness.

    I just came back from a 3 night backcountry trip with a friend who never skied with an overnight backpack and following my list she managed to fit everything into a40+10 pack which weighed approx. 27 lbs. We ended up skiing over 40 miles with about 3000 foot elevation gain and she came back refreshed and not bagged (which has often been the case on some of my very early trips)

    #1972031
    HkNewman
    BPL Member

    @hknewman

    Locale: The West is (still) the Best

    Good info but your sentences are too long. About 14 words is an average limit to a typical sentence in English. Blogs should reflect the personality of the writer but run-on sentences are a killer.

    #1972049
    Dena Kelley
    BPL Member

    @eagleriverdee

    Locale: Eagle River, Alaska

    No worries Mike, some people focus more on grammar and spelling than on perfectly understandable content.

    Thanks for sharing your article.

    #1972051
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    "Would you mind pointing out my spelling mistake?"

    How many would you like?

    One extra problem is that robot search engines can't easily figure out what the human means with spelling problems. So, it is necessary for us to write for humans and also for machines.

    –B.G.–

    #1972055
    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    Thanks Dena, it's my pleasure to share some of the experience. I'm an engineer and a ski instructor and not an English major but some of the feedback has been useful and I will definitely keep it in mind when writing the next post.

    Here is another one I wrote on why you should never go into the backcountry :-)

    #1972061
    Andrew Zajac
    Member

    @azajac

    Locale: South West

    I agree with the long sentences comments. A good example is that your first paragraph is made up of two sentences. I also looked for these heinous spelling errors. I spotted an 'easies' when I believe you meant to say 'easiest.' I also found this 'I often bring two, one thick and a thin one for when I’m seating up the hills.' Is seating some term that I am unfamiliar with?

    The only other comment that I have is to go into specifics some more. For example, what is a good first aid kit, good blister kit, or good repair kit? How many calories are enough?

    #1972074
    Jeremy and Angela
    BPL Member

    @requiem

    Locale: Northern California

    I agree with some of the comments on the writing style. For myself it was more an issue with rhythm than length, but then I still remember the golden age of semicolons.

    What you might try doing is reading the text aloud. See where you naturally pause for breath and adjust the text to accommodate. Use punctuation to guide the flow; that is probably more important than simply placing it where required.

    I fell over backwards onto my pack while skiing down
    Here each prepositional phrase adds to the tension (imagine a rubber band stretching). This might be a good time to allow it to relax rather than driving onward into "and I felt…."

    Besides stream, lake or glacier water has no taste.
    In this example I initially parse "besides stream" as the introductory phrase. A comma after "besides" fixes this:
    "Besides, stream, lake, or glacier water has no taste."
    If that's too many commas in close proximity, try:
    "Besides, water from streams, lakes, or glaciers has no taste."

    In terms of spellink and punctuation a simple re-read should catch most errors. Be aware your brain, in a sort of mental auto-correct, will still ignore some; allow a decent break before reviewing.

    Here is another sentence that could use a bit of tidying:
    How embarrassing – I was thinking to myself the entire time .Why did I bring all that extra clothing and gadgets?
    A dash is actually quite appropriate here, but the flow feels off. Try:
    How embarrassing – I was thinking to myself the entire time, "Why did I bring all that extra clothing and gadgets?"
    Or alternatively:
    "How embarrassing," I was thinking to myself the entire time. Why did I bring all that extra clothing and gadgets?

    #1972081
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    "spellink and punctuation"

    I rest my case.

    –B.G.–

    #1972086
    Jim Colten
    BPL Member

    @jcolten

    Locale: MN

    WHAT? BPL has become a literary society?

    Eleven replies concerned with style and hardly a hint about content?

    I'll start, not much to quibble about but … no emergency shelter for the event you are caught out over night? Just a sleeping bag liner if you know the huts have adequate blankets?

    #1972104
    Dena Kelley
    BPL Member

    @eagleriverdee

    Locale: Eagle River, Alaska

    "WHAT? BPL has become a literary society?

    Eleven replies concerned with style and hardly a hint about content?

    I'll start, not much to quibble about but … no emergency shelter for the event you are caught out over night? Just a sleeping bag liner if you know the huts have adequate blankets?"

    Thank you. Honestly, the guy submitted his thoughts for our consideration and review, not for us to get out the red pen to take him to task on spelling and grammar.

    #1972112
    Rick M
    BPL Member

    @yamaguy

    del

    #1972311
    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    Thank you all again for positive feedback and even writing style tips (Jeremy thanks for the detailed examples). It's much appreciated.

    And Dena good idea about adding "emergency shelter for the event you are caught out over night". I added it to my original blog post under Emergency Items.

    #1972329
    Dena Kelley
    BPL Member

    @eagleriverdee

    Locale: Eagle River, Alaska

    Mike, that was actually Jim Colten's idea, I was just quoting him.

    #1972336
    Mike Blarowki
    BPL Member

    @mikeyb

    Locale: BC25.com

    Ahh ok, I see that now – thanks for the suggestion Jim Colten.

    I'm fairly new here and still have not figured out how to quote others. Perhaps it's something that comes with a paid membership. All I can do is post and reply.

    #1972359
    Jeremy and Angela
    BPL Member

    @requiem

    Locale: Northern California

    Any quotes you see are purely manual: simply copy and paste, and mark them any way you like. My personal preference is to use <i>italics tags</i> around longer quotes; quotation marks alone are harder for me to keep track of.

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