Mar 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm #1300242
After mulling over a few different tarps and emailing back and forth with Gen from YAMA Mountain Gear, I settled on the Stratiform 1P+. (Used to be called the Stratiform III).
I was looking for a tarp that had the openness and aesthetics of a basic cat tarp, but with a little more protection. I also wanted one with more room than my Echo I. The S1P+ seemed to fit the bill, and gave it a shot.
It arrived Thursday, neatly packaged. I was able to take it out on a trail today and set it up a few times, crawl inside it, and make lunch. I don't feel like writing too much prose, so I'll bullet point some things:
-16.1 ounces on my scale in stuff sack with guy lines cut to the recommended length on YAMA's website.
-This is a very roomy tarp for one. With the right gear you could fit two–tightly–but doable.
-Easy to set up and pitches tautly.
-When set up in "raised" mode, you can darn near walk right in the front.
-Zippered front entry is really roomy and easy to get in/out, even with the pole sitting vertical.
-The rear of the tarp is big enough that you can easily crawl all the way back and still be protected.
-Optional rear beak is nice for a bit more wind/spray protection. Adds less than an ounce.
-Because of its size, you may want to have all six side tieout points anchored if it is windy. That brings the total # of stakes to 12. Calm days you'll only need 6.
-Depending on pitch, it is fine to cook underneath. Just be aware of the risks.
-Both sides of the front beak can be rolled back for views/ventilation.
-If I can, I'm going to try to take it out overnight before the snow melts to see how I like it. Initially, I think that I'll stick with the Trailstar for winter, and this for solo 3-season trips.
There are also some newer pictures up on YAMA's website.Mar 9, 2013 at 3:07 pm #1963566
@lunchandynnerLocale: Pacific Northwest
That looks really nice. Great first look and awesome pictures!Mar 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm #1963567
do you have any photos ?Mar 9, 2013 at 3:18 pm #1963569
Looks great TravisMar 9, 2013 at 3:26 pm #1963574
Photos? Yes, I'll see if I can dig any up…. :)
It seems to be a fairly rare shelter, so I figured I'd give a bunch of angles to look at.
Dug Shelby ("Rawhide") has a good video here:Mar 9, 2013 at 6:13 pm #1963650
Weird. I've never seen cuben look so grey…..Mar 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm #1963765
It's the white snow. Has that effect on cuben.
BTW, I think the bug net will do quite finely for the lady and I.Mar 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm #1963768
@hesLocale: Pacific NW
You guys are joking right? The Stratiform is a silnylon tarp.Mar 9, 2013 at 10:33 pm #1963771
Not to answer for Doug, but yes, he's joking. And me too. :)
You know how dogs are trained to smell the faintest traces of drugs? Well, Doug can smell a square meter of cuben from 3.2 miles away. Or so I've heard…he's legend up in these parts.Mar 9, 2013 at 11:34 pm #1963792
I've heard…he's legend up in these parts.
don't know if he is a legend down our parts , but glad to know that he is a legend up yours.Mar 10, 2013 at 9:02 am #1963834
@hesLocale: Pacific NW
Whoops, Travis, didn't notice that you were also the OP who owned the tarp! it does have beautiful lines, as Dug says in your linked video.Mar 10, 2013 at 9:46 am #1963844
"don't know if he is a legend down our parts , but glad to know that he is a legend up yours."
He meant that my parts are legendary…..Mar 10, 2013 at 9:49 am #1963845
@woodenwizardLocale: Greater Mt Tabor
"He meant that my parts are legendary….."
See the "Peeing in a bottle" threadMar 10, 2013 at 1:46 pm #1963918
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Nice shape but NOT my cup of tea for winter camping.
I'm selling my current TT Moment for the new Moment DW (Double Wall) and if I truly want to "tarp it" in winter I can use just the fly of the DW. But the chances of me tarping it ever again in winter are near zero.Mar 13, 2013 at 8:15 am #1965036
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Did your Trailstar break?Mar 13, 2013 at 10:23 am #1965081
Heh, no, but this probably will replace the Echo I system I have.Mar 13, 2013 at 11:29 am #1965108
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I was just pulling your chain :)Mar 13, 2013 at 11:30 am #1965109
I know :)Mar 13, 2013 at 12:21 pm #1965131
Travis – would be interested in knowing what you like and or dislike about the Echo 1. They seam similar apart from the fabric. Thanks,Mar 13, 2013 at 12:52 pm #1965148
The Echo I is really a great shelter. Very well made, durable, well designed, and cool looking.
Ultimately it comes down to size. The Echo I tarp is just small for my liking. If pitched low to shed more wind, there is little headroom and shoulder room. One can make the argument that you really don't need to pitch it low with the solid 1/2 walls on the inner, and that's true. But with the tarp alone, it can get tight, especially when you add in the front pole.
I must note that my tarp comes in much smaller than spec'd on HMG's website. I don't know if they sized up a bit on the Echo I since I got mine, but the front width on mine is only 6' when stretched out flat, and is spec'd at 7'. The rear width is something like 6-8" smaller than spec as well. Length is about right.
The Stratiform is much bigger. Two people can sit side by side in the front, and depending on pitch, one can sit upright nearly halfway back towards the foot end. It reminds me of an elongated Trailstar, especially since I have the optional rear beak installed. It seems very livable.
Downsides to the Stratiform: larger= more weight (but not much), larger footprint, and may have more deflection on the side panels.
This isn't a fabulous comparison shot, but you get some idea of size difference. The Echo beak is attached in this shot.
I'd like to note that I have not had the shelters up side by side yet, and have not spent a night in the Stratiform. For every other aspect but size, the Echo is still a really fabulous setup.Mar 13, 2013 at 12:57 pm #1965150
Thanks for this.
I also like the fact that they both look like decent alternatives to bear rugs.Mar 13, 2013 at 1:00 pm #1965153
>I also like the fact that they both look like decent alternatives to bear rugs.
Lol! I had a teacher that had a hide on his floor. I'm not sure what it was, but it was a short-haired animal of some sort. Looked like the white Echo tarp…Jun 1, 2013 at 12:32 am #1992092
@moxtrLocale: The piney woods
never mindJun 1, 2013 at 5:08 am #1992116
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