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  • #1300203
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    Greetings,

    Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I couldn't find a thread addressing this topic.

    After months of deliberation, I'm leaning toward this shelter. I didn't realize until a few minutes ago that there is a "Shangri La II Tarp" for $150 and "Shangri La II Fly" version for $99. Financially I'm also going to factor in that anything over $100 has free shipping; don't know how much shipping will be for the fly as of right now.

    I asked Golite what the difference was between the two and was told "very little." Apparently the Tarp version has a wider door than the Fly version. Tarp is marginally heavier but otherwise the material seems to be the same and the seams are taped on both versions.

    Based on their published specs, the Tarp is a couple ozs heavier and $50 more. The dimensions of the Tarp are 4'9" x 9'5"; I didn't find the dimensions of the Fly.

    I'm tall at 6'3" but since the shelter is presumably 9'5" for both, it seems that I should fit in the tarp fine. I'm assuming that since both are ~ 45 square feet that the fly is basically the same dimensions. BLUF as both have taped seams, is there any reason I should spend an extra $50 for a shelter which weighs a couple extra ozs?

    Thanks in advance!

    Specs per website:

    Tarp $150
    http://www.golite.com/Shangri-La-2-Tarp-P47002.aspx

    Trail Weight: 1 lb 9 oz. | 700 g Packaged Weight: 1 lb 10 oz. | 740 g
    15 Denier Ripstop Nylon
    Silicone/PU 1200mm Waterproof Fire Retardant Coating
    7001 Alloy Aluminum Stakes
    70 Denier 190T Nylon Taffeta
    3000mm Waterproof, Fire Retardant Coating
    Type: 2-Person
    Height 45 inches / 114 cm
    Area: 45.1 sq. ft / 4.19 sq. m
    Packed Dimensions: 3 x 6 x 14 inches

    Fly $99
    http://www.golite.com/Shangri-La-2-Flysheet-P882.aspx
    1 lb 7 oz. | 640 g
    15 Denier Ripstop Nylon
    Silicone/PU 1200mm Waterproof Fire Retardant Coating
    20 Denier Polyester No-See-Um Mesh
    7001 alloy aluminum states
    Type: 2 person
    Height: 48 inches
    Area: 45 sq. ft | 4.2 sq. m
    Main Body Weight: 23oz. | 640 g
    Pole Weight: 0 oz. | 0 g
    Stake Weight: 4 oz. | 100 g

    #1963266
    James Klein
    BPL Member

    @jnklein21

    Locale: Southeast

    Ian, It apprears to me that the "flysheet" is just last years model.

    I notice at the top of the page you link to: "Home > Archived Products".

    $100 is a steal imo for this generally well recieved shelter (they go used for around that price here). I suspect this deal won't be around for long.

    #1963268
    James Klein
    BPL Member

    @jnklein21

    Locale: Southeast

    I am curious how you stumbled upon the "flysheet option". I can't seem to map to it from the golite site.

    #1963274
    Rodney
    Spectator

    @rodney-m

    Locale: Northeast Oregon

    That really is a good price. The only thing that can compete with this is the Mountainsmith Mountain Shelter LT which is on sale at overstock.com for $99.95. The Mountain Shelter LT is 54 sq. feet versus 45 for the Shangri La.

    #1963310
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    James, that is because it is an archived page and the fly sheet is not available.

    The two products are the same and the one for $99 is not available.

    #1963312
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Golite has been working on their tent and shelter offerings. It appears you have stumbled on an old page. If they will honor the listing, that's a perfectly good shelter for $100. I was able to put one in the cart, but I didn't try to check out. Even if you could, you may get a cancellation.

    You can find a nest for it if you travel in buggy areas. Some have put netting skirts on the bottom to accomplish the same. The 2 person version of the tarp is just a few ounces more than the solo version.

    #1963356
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    Thanks for the input. I landed on the Fly listing by Googling "Shangri La 2" and noticed that it wasn't listed on the tents/shelters link on their website. I didn't follow it to the final sale but it seemed from clicking on it that I could initiate a sale.

    #1963357
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    "James, that is because it is an archived page and the fly sheet is not available.

    The two products are the same and the one for $99 is not available."

    I should have had a V8. I see the archived link above the item description now. Well I have one in my shopping cart from earlier so I'll make contact with the company on the off chance that they have a surplus of the Fly version that they are willing to sell at that price.

    Oh well.

    #1963406
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    James – it happens to me all the time as well but I will add that if, as Dale indicates, Golite is willing to honour the price I would push for that. $99 is a steal.

    #1963428
    Rodney
    Spectator

    @rodney-m

    Locale: Northeast Oregon

    I went ahead and placed an order this morning. The order was accepted and went through. I received and email from Go-Lite indicating the order went through and my credit card was charged. I guess I will see on Monday if they rescind the order. IMO they should not allow an archived web page to be available if they are not going to honor the order. If and when I hear from Go-Lite, I will update this post.

    Rodney

    #1963430
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    That is pretty awesome. If I didn't already have one….

    #1963515
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Are you advocating to knowingly taking advantage of a "mistake " ?
    (is an archived page a mistake ?)
    If so I hope you don't get too upset when you are at the receiving end…

    #1963527
    Stuart .
    BPL Member

    @lotuseater

    Locale: Colorado

    I was just in the GoLite store in Boulder. I was told that all Shangri-La shelters are available only in evergreen for 2013. If the discontinued product is in bamboo yellow, then you have a legitimately discounted product.

    #1963602
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    Greetings,

    I just sent Golite an email asking for clarification and I'll update once I receive a response. I like the yellow (bamboo?) color as well so hopefully it's truly for sale. I think $150 is an outstanding price for this product anyways (based on end user BPL reviews) but $99 is a screaming deal. Looks like shipping is about $8 for the fly.

    EDIT FWIW if you google it, the nest will also show up on an archived page for $69. To be continued….

    #1963972
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    $150 is still a good price for the SL2 Tarp but apparently the Fly is a no-go.

    Ian,

    Sorry, but that is an old page and we don't sell the fly sheet like this. The only thing we have is the Shangri-La 2 tarp in Evergreen, see link below. Trap sells for $149.99

    http://www.golite.com/Shangri-La-2-Tarp-P47002.aspx

    I'll check on that old page as it should not come up when searched. I was not able to locate the same page when searching.

    Thank you for inquiring with GoLite,

    Jim Lewis
    Customer Service Representative
    888 / 546-5483 option #2
    GoLite, LLC
    6325 Gunpark Drive, Suite 102
    Boulder, CO 80301 US

    #1964336
    Rodney
    Spectator

    @rodney-m

    Locale: Northeast Oregon

    This morning I received an email from GoLite thanking me for my order and giving me a phone number for any questions. They included a receipt indicating the Shangri La 2 would be shipped today and delivered by UPS. The one I ordered was a Bamboo (yellow) color. I will look for it to arrive later this week.

    I checked the GoLite web site and it indicates that GoLite reserves the right to cancel any order for any reason. Since they did not cancel my order and since they said "Thank you for your order," I am taking them at their word that they are thankful. For those who might think I took advantage of a company, I am sorry. I never intended to do so nor would I ever intentionally take advantage of a corporation or an individual. But GoLite certainly had every opportunity to not accept my order. Whether or not they want or will permit other orders for this single wall shelter at a discount, I cannot say. But I am thankful for having the opportunity to purchase it at a discount to the current model and color.

    Rodney

    #1965711
    Rodney
    Spectator

    @rodney-m

    Locale: Northeast Oregon

    My GoLite Shangri La 2 arrived this afternoon. Here are the weights of the individual components as it came from the manufacturer.

    Shelter Stuff Sack @ 1.6 oz
    Stakes (8) @ 3.1 oz
    Stake Stuff Sack @ 0.2 oz
    Shelter @ 21.7 oz

    For a total weight of 1 lb 10 oz, or 26 ounces. I know the math is a bit off, but that is how it came out weighing the total and individual parts.

    Tomorrow I will be setting it up and taking some measurements. If anyone is interested I will post these with some photos.

    Take care,
    Rodney

    #1965896
    Ian
    BPL Member

    @10-7

    Rodney,

    That's awesome that you were able to grab one! I'll try emailing Golite before I make my purchase to see if I can work something out with them (assuming no deals to be found on gear swap.)

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