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  • #1299598
    Franco Darioli
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    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    The eternal question :
    stuff, roll or fold ?
    This is my way :
    Packing up a Tarptent

    focuses on how I store my Tarptents but the principle is the same for other tents too.

    #1957492
    Jeffs Eleven
    BPL Member

    @woodenwizard

    Locale: NePo

    I roll, but I have a Scarp… so I gotta roll.

    I clicked on this cause I *knew* it was for sleeping pads and I swear by folding it like a bath towel and putting it against your back in your pack.

    It makes them dissappear.
    (obscure Pantera refrence)

    #1957494
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    Jeffs, I just started rethinking how I pack and have played with "flatpacking" my pad. I think I like it.

    #1957650
    Tim Zen
    Spectator

    @asdzxc57

    Locale: MI

    Franco — nice video. Thank you for posting.

    #1957911
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Thank you Tim.
    This morning I shot one for the Contrail.
    Same idea but someone asked for that.
    Packing up the Contrail

    #1957927
    Dena Kelley
    BPL Member

    @eagleriverdee

    Locale: Eagle River, Alaska

    I'm a stuffer. It's faster and I believe that not consistently creasing the same part of the tent is better. Folding, I think, creates repetitive stress points on the tent fabric (assuming the person folds the same each time). Rolling I think would be fine but less space efficient than stuffing.

    #1957938
    Ryan Smith
    BPL Member

    @violentgreen

    Locale: East TN

    +1 to Dena.

    Ryan

    #1957942
    Ryan W
    Spectator

    @ryanw

    Thanks for the video Franco.

    I haven't used single wall shelters much. Do you have any suggestions for packing up a single wall like the contrail in the rain so as to keep the interior dry? That is one of my hangups with prolonged wet weather use of a tent like the contrail.

    Thanks

    #1957950
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Dena
    In the video I stated that "it depends" regarding what the best way is
    (mind you , you need to be able to decipher my accent and keep in mind that I make the dialog up as I go along…)
    Anyway, for stuff that is very soft/playable, say a puffy jacket or a sleeping bag, stuffing is faster and you are not going to save any space by folding/rolling.
    This can change if using a sleeping bag with a much thicker than normal fabric.
    For tents or shelters again it depends on the fabric and of course as I point out in the video how the tent is made.
    Most Tarptents have a supported end with built in struts , so you have to fold and roll but for example with the Contrail , there is absolutely no way that you could remove the struts stuff the shelter in the provided sack with struts and stakes.
    My "guess" is that it becomes even more obvious with Cuben shelters.
    Just one small example :
    TiGoat bivvy
    that is a TiGoat Ptarmigan bivvy.
    If you look carefully you can see that the perishing rubber band is not really compressing the bivvy.
    Now I dare anyone that has that bivvy to get it that small by stuffing it.
    Even once inside that pack and compressed it will take more space
    Now multiply that by several times for a tent and it starts to make a difference.
    BTW :
    Folding, I think, creates repetitive stress points on the tent fabric
    True if..
    It is virtualy impossible to fold a silnylon or Epic tent the exact same way twice.
    I have tried several times to do a "factory" re-pack for a Tarptent but failed…
    Ryan W.
    Take a look at the Contrail video , that should answer your question. (click on the blue Contrail word)
    If I were looking for a solo TT shelter to use in areas where rain is common and particularly if planning to spend an afternoon or two inside, I would look at the Strato Spire 1 or if weight/size is more important, the Notch.
    I would not bother (I have the SS2 and the Notch) but if worried about packing up in the rain , you can separate the inner from the fly, pack that up and then get out take down the fly and put that inside the front pocket or across the top of the backpack.

    #1960520
    M B
    BPL Member

    @livingontheroad

    It doesnt matter if you try to roll or fold silnylon
    It will end up stuffed anyway
    too slippery.

    #1960621
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    That was funny, but you will only understand why if you watch the video link I posted in my initial comment…

    BTW ,here is a comment on my YouTuce Contrail video :
    Thanks again for the video! I was having trouble with this. But I just practiced with this a few times and it rolls up quick and easy. And easily fit back in the stuff sack.

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