Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 am #1297851
I have a synmat pad and the pillows I have used/tried all slide off after the first move and my sleep is greatly affected. The synmat pad and all the pillows all seem to have slippery materials so it's almost like it's designed to slip off!! So I tried to use the back pack but that moves away too. So I am up to the point of gluing velcro bits to pad and pillow to make it stay there.
Any other suggestions to keep the pillow in place? What method do you use?
Mik.Jan 10, 2013 at 3:43 am #1942419
@newtonLocale: Southeastern Louisiana
Some dots or lines of seam sealer applied to the bottom side of the pillow or its pillow case helps to provide some control of the pillow sliding off the pad.
I used some stripes of Permatex Flowable windshield sealer on my MYOG pillow case. My pillow is a Kooka Bay inflatable BTW. The pillowcase keeps the pillow clean and free of skin oil etc. It is also removable and washable. The bottom side is silnylon and the sealer stripes have made it through the washer several times.
NewtonJan 10, 2013 at 3:45 am #1942420
@simply_lightLocale: Midwest, US
Check out the below thread:
I just saw it a little while ago and while I am not crazy about the fabric, the concept looks feasible and easily implemented.Jan 10, 2013 at 4:42 am #1942425
@brooklynkayakLocale: Atlantic North East
I use the Montbell pillow that has slots for straps. I have added straps similar to the straps seen on the monkey pillow.Jan 10, 2013 at 4:46 am #1942426
If I remember correctly, both the Synmat and the Exped pillow (and others) have holes through edge material by which you can tie them together. Other folks have created such a system using duck tape and a hole punch.Jan 10, 2013 at 8:01 am #1942470
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
Or, put some Permatex or silicone:mineral spirits on the padJan 10, 2013 at 8:27 am #1942482
Exped pillows also have loops so that you can attach it to your mat. Ironically, the link to the tread mentioned above…if you go to the link in that linked thread and look at the first picture, they are actually showing the product being used with an Exped pillow inside of it that has the attachment hole showing.
KJJan 10, 2013 at 3:59 pm #1942644
Valcro straps it is then :). I just can't see seam sealing stripes holding pillow in place properly. It doesn't hold my mat in place on the shelter floor wit all my body weight on it so I think the pillow case (punt intended) is out.
Thanks for your replies :)Jan 10, 2013 at 4:20 pm #1942652
The other tip I have found both effective and comfortable is pulling my buff over my Exped pillow. The Buff material feels much better against my face and at the same time makes the pillow more resistant to slipping.Jan 10, 2013 at 4:25 pm #1942654
@attaboybradLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
A small patch of 1/8" evazote between pillow and pad will do the trick. Should weigh only a few grams. Works basically like non-stick drawer and rug liners.Jan 10, 2013 at 6:15 pm #1942691
+1 on Randy's suggestion. I also do the same.
KJJan 10, 2013 at 6:37 pm #1942695
+2 I use the Montbell pillow though.Jan 10, 2013 at 6:41 pm #1942697
@richardcullipLocale: San Diego County
Like Ken, a buff pulled over my Montbell pillow works for me.Jan 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm #1942698
@bookLocale: Northern California
I put an exped pillow inside of a stuff sack and then surround it with a down vest. Then I place it on top of some other clothes at the head of my mat; that is, on the ground and off the mat. This arrangement keeps my pillow from slipping and at just the right height for me. But when it comes to pillows, everybody's mileage will vary1Jan 11, 2013 at 8:33 am #1942829
I simply place an extra torso layer (e.g. windshirt, etc) over the head of the air mattress and stuff the pillow in between the mattress and the torso layer.Jan 11, 2013 at 9:22 am #1942846
@newtonLocale: Southeastern Louisiana
…"stuff the pillow in between the mattress and the torso layer."
Elegantly simple and dual use! ;-)
NewtonJan 11, 2013 at 9:49 am #1942854
I use a Montbell pillow and a Downmat UL7. I use a very small diameter length of shock cord and attach it to the holes in the bottom corners of the pillow with some clips. I simply run the cord under my pad and it stays in place. I tried the Velcro option before, but I didn’t like gluing things to by pad and pillow.
BenJan 11, 2013 at 9:30 pm #1943051
Maybe this will sound sort of outlandish. But if you are using a pillow, why does it need to be on the sleeping mat in the first place? Since you have a pillow, your head probably doesn't need the insulation from the ground. It also probably doesn't need the bit of extra padding. Thus if your pillow is placed just past the top of your sleep mat, it won't slide off since its already off. I admit to being a torso pad user, so perhaps my thinking is just too radical for normal people. :p
However, if you must have the pillow on your sleeping pad, fill your backpack with the rest of your gear you aren't using and place it at the top of your sleeping pad. The pillow will push against the pack and the much larger pack will push back against the cheeky bastard, thsu frustrating your pillows desire to roam free during the night. At least that was what I use to do.Jan 12, 2013 at 9:10 am #1943144
@thinairLocale: 6237' - Manitou Springs
I'm not sure if that idea is a left brain or right brian idea, but apparently I don't possess that side as that idea would never have occurred to me!
Thank you.Jan 12, 2013 at 10:18 am #1943161
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Sean, good thought. That is exactly how I work it. I use the dry bag (turned inside out) with everything I own, except the pack, as my pillow. The pack works against my feet, just under the NightLite. The pillow goes just above. This works pretty well.Jan 12, 2013 at 10:45 am #1943167
Sean, you must be a back sleeper or using a very thin sleeping pad!
As a side sleeper, I want my pillow on my pad because the reason I use a pillow is because lying on my side, my head wants to be at its normal angle, not hanging down to the ground at a very awkward angle. Since my pad and pillow are both Expeds and about the same thickness, putting my pillow on the ground just above my pad would essentially be no different than no pillow at all!
FWIW, I use the Buff method.Jan 12, 2013 at 7:26 pm #1943284
"I simply place an extra torso layer (e.g. windshirt, etc) over the head of the air mattress and stuff the pillow in between the mattress and the torso layer."
This could work until you get to the colder nights where you are wearing all your clothes in the sleeping bag.
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