Sep 24, 2012 at 1:56 pm #1294405
I'm looking to find out if anyone knows if the Bearikade Expedition will fit into the Gossamer Gear 2012 Mariposa. Also looking to find out what other packs out there might fit it.
I'm in need of a pack that will carry about 33.5lbs for a day and decreasing with food weight from there. This will be for the JMT.
If it's helpful , I believe I'm 18-19" torso and 30" waist. I am currently using a Granite Gear Blaze A.C. 60 and am not sure how the Mariposa 2012 would compare to the size of this pack as I'm not sure what portion of the pack Granite Gear is considering the 3660 cubic inches (main body or main body and pockets).
KJSep 24, 2012 at 9:40 pm #1915337
@elmvineLocale: Central Texas
I have a Mariposa a few years old, not a 2012, but I think the proportions are similar. Last year on the JMT we rented Expeditions, and mine fit just fine in the Mariposa. Vertically. Some people seem to want their bear cans to go in horizontally but I like vertically better anyway because then I can get into it at lunch or something without hauling it out of the pack. Here it is on that trip, with the Expedition in it.Sep 24, 2012 at 10:06 pm #1915344
@billwangLocale: SF Bay Area
I was just out on the JMT with my zpacks exo. It worked fine, carrying a bearikade expedition vertically with some room on the beneath and on the sides.Sep 24, 2012 at 10:44 pm #1915352
@amrowincLocale: Southern California
I think you'll find most packs will hold a bear canister vertically. Heck, I can fit my bearikade weekender in my GG Murmur pack and I know an expedition will fit in their also because the diameter is the same. The issue isn't if it will fit, it's about how well the pack will carry the weight. I did the JMT in 2009 with a older mariposa and was carrying more weight than the pack was designed for. As a result I had a sore neck for a portion of that hike after picking up resupplies. I was carrying between 30-35lbs. at that time. I now carry 24lbs. max with water and 10 days of food in a canister. That might work in a Mariposa–I'm not sure. I now use a modified GoLite Jam2 that has proven to be very comfortable with the weight.
Whatever pack you decide on be aware of the recommended carry weight and by all means do some trail testing with it. Having something that fits in your pack doesn't mean you'll be comfortable carrying it.Sep 25, 2012 at 5:59 am #1915374
@dbogeyLocale: East Coast
Just did 7 days on the Sierra High Route with my ULA Circuit and cinched my Bearikade Weekender down on top of the pack. Worked really well and never shifted or caused any problems. I liked having it on the outside of my pack for quick access I think my starting weight with canister was around 37lbs. I'm sure you could put the expedition on the pack the same way.Sep 25, 2012 at 7:02 am #1915384
The ULA Epic is designed to take a rolled-up packraft beneath the dry bag pack body. I've put a Bearicade Scout under the pack bag with no problems. I put some silicon dots on the wrap-around to help hold it in place. The Epic is a very clever solutions to issues like this!Sep 25, 2012 at 7:47 am #1915393
@qiwizLocale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Was able to get one onto/into a GG Gorilla but it took some creativity and very compact non-food gear for a 9-day Bailey Range traverse.Sep 25, 2012 at 11:06 am #1915441
Exo works awesome, and only weighs 14 oz. I can carry a Bear canister and 30-35 lbs no problem and the pack is surprisingly comfortable.
CheersSep 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm #1915465
@anthonywestonLocale: Southern CA
I have a zpacks Blast but made with the same material as the zpacks Exo but with larger volume. I love the pack.
The ULA Airx would also work.Sep 25, 2012 at 1:27 pm #1915485
I took the ZPacks Exo with a Bearikade Expedition on the JMT with my wife and two of our daughters. One of my replies to the questions I received after my trip report contains also a detailed "review" of the ZPacks Exo. I carried up to 39 lbs (right after resupply at MTR) in that pack and was very happy with it. It had enough space left for two person tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, extra clothes, stove, cooker, fishing gear, etc.
P.S.: Afterwards I took my ZPacks Exo on the Sierra High Route. For that trip I carried only the Bearicade Scout and had a max weight of 26 lbs on my back – very comfortable and nice for climbing across all these passes with loose talus.
P.P.S.: I believe ZPacks has stopped production of the Exo and replaced it with the Arc Blast. Although the Arc Blast uses the same bag as the Exo, the design of the frame might prevent a Bearikade Expedition from fitting in due to the curvature of the frame.Sep 25, 2012 at 1:47 pm #1915489
I'm currently trying out a Zpacks Arc Blast and it fits a BV500 vertically no problem with lots of extra vertical room, and a little extra depth. According to the manufacturer website, the BV500 has a 8.7" diameter x 12.7" length, and the Bearikade Expedition has a 9″ diameter base by 14.5″ length. With all the extra room I had for the BV500, I think the Expedition should fit fine.Sep 25, 2012 at 2:43 pm #1915505
Was this the case regarding the fit of he can in the upper portion of the pack, or does the can slip all the way down to the bottom? ZPacks site states: "A Bear Canister can easily fit standing vertically in the upper half of the backpack." Not sure how I feel having that weight up higher on my back. Also, what is your take on the pack sitting off your back?
KJSep 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm #1915529
Definitely, in either direction.Sep 25, 2012 at 4:17 pm #1915554
@scottbentzLocale: Southern California
I know my Bearicade Expedition fits just fine upright in a Gossamer Gear Gorilla 2012. I have been using an older Mariposa for a long time which has plenty of room for the canister. I place it either on top of my loosely stuffed sleeping bag, tarp and clothes. If my tarp is wet from rain or condensation I put the canister next to my bag and clothes so my wet stuff stays on top.Sep 26, 2012 at 12:54 pm #1915827
My BV500 is currently placed above the curve of the frame, but "half" is misleading. It's really closer to 1/3 of the pack height from the bottom. When I get home I can measure precisely if you're interested. It's currently sitting on top of my sleeping bag and clothes, which is where I normally would place a bear canister in any other pack, so it's not placed any higher than usual.
I've only worn the pack around the house so far, but it seems to have good load transfer to the hips. I haven't noticed any pressure on my shoulders, and I don't notice the weight being further away. Although I've only worn it for maybe 30 minutes max, so perhaps a longer wearing may prove otherwise. Unfortunately, I've been having some back pains this past week, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to wear it for a few hours.Sep 27, 2012 at 11:24 pm #1916318
@rexLocale: Central California Coast
Just got a Hyperlite Mountain Gear Windrider pack, size Tall.
My 10-year-old Bearikade Expedition does not fit inside, but it does fit nicely under the Y-strap on top. I painted the Bearikade Expedition white to make it easier to find, and keep the contents cooler:
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