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Jul 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm #1897501
I've always wanted to get a rower. I understand it's very important to use proper form. David, does it (proper form) make that much difference?
Jul 25, 2012 at 1:55 pm #1897513@Doug – very much so. But it doesn't take long to get an understanding of form. Maybe two 20 minute sessions. The push comes from the quads and just as your legs become extended, your upper body pulls. The sequence is then reversed – upper body, then lower body. The great thing about the movement is that your body forces you to do reasonably well right off the bat because if you don't, you will hit your knees with the 'oar.' Once you get the stroke correct, it becomes 'auto pilot' and you can then focus on watts and metres per second to attain some distance goals.
I have a Concept 2 rower. Some great videos on technique on their website.
Jul 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm #1897520AnonymousInactive"good preparation for steep ascents and descents is something I have yet to accomplish."
Work out on sets of stairs, many sets with a pack for endurance, not so many without a pack at a fast pace for interval training. Both ways will build leg strength. Best of all would be if you could find a hill, the longer and steeper(up to a point), the better. It will accomplish the same goals as stairs, only better, and also work the small muscles involved in stabilization/proprioception. Working out on a Step Mill(NOT a Stairmaster) is also a good way to train, although not as your main venue except as a last resort.
Jul 25, 2012 at 5:27 pm #1897567Tom makes a great point. Steps are awesome cardio, but they aren't perfect training for a long hike. Because the step surface itself is horizontal, the forces on your body are different from the slopes you will encounter on the trail. Having your foot at an angle makes a big difference – especially descending, where having the foot at an angle places a lot more force on the thighs.
But even if you live in a flat area, you can probably find a steep embankment somewhere near where you live – climbing up and down that for 10 minutes once a week can help your overall preparation for hiking.
Muscles have a memory, and get more efficient at any activity you do regularly. More precisely, your brain and nervous system get better at controlling the muscles, and working out the minimum number of nerve fibers required to fire to achieve any particular task, thus reducing energy requirements.
So while rowing or cycling or running are awesome for building up your overall cardio vascular fitness, you should still be walking with a pack at least twice a week (including hopefully getting out and hitting some local trails at least for a few hours on a weekend).
Jul 25, 2012 at 5:52 pm #1897572My complaint about Stairmasters is that you don't get a good workout because you're not doing much work. Most of my body stays at the same elevation despite cranking it up to 4.5 mph and 15 degree slope. So I climb actual, real stairs. Even in Flatland, there are two-story buildings. I get a huge benefit from just 10 minutes a day of going up and down a one-story staircase at home each morning. Then I shower and start my day.
That and miles – actual, real walking. I motivate myself myself at times while just running errands. I walk instead of driving to town. I take 2 hours, but I saved 20 minutes of driving so it feels like I'm multi-tasking.
The older you are, the slower you should ease into it. But I haven't found any limit to what an older hiker can do (I do more now than when 20), but I do have to start conditioning much earlier.
Jul 25, 2012 at 6:07 pm #1897574Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 pm #1897577despite cranking it up to 4.5 mph and 15 degree slope.
Isn't that a treadmill?
I just walk the dogs up and down the hill at the local park, with a pack at times. Work is physical, no cubicle monkey.
Jul 25, 2012 at 6:34 pm #1897581edit
Jul 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm #1897582AnonymousInactive"I've always called it a stairmaster, maybe the official name is something else???"
That is the beast I was referring to, Mike. It is officially called the Step Mill. If you can't get outside, for whatever reason, or find a decent hill/mountain to train on, this contraption will give you your money's worth, guaranteed.
Jul 25, 2012 at 6:40 pm #1897583ahh- OK, it's definitely a beast, like I said ours pretty much gathers dust as no one seems to want that much pain, at the upper settings you are full on running-UP!, the stairway to he11 :)
Jul 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm #1897587AnonymousInactive"My complaint about Stairmasters is that you don't get a good workout because you're not doing much work."
David,
Just for the sake of comparison: If you can locate a Step Mill, as pictured in Mike's post, you should try it out. Maybe dial up the intensity up to Level 8 or 9 to get a feel for what the machine can do for you. If that doesn't get your juices flowing, the turnover rate goes all the way up to Level 14, but I'd be very surprised if you get that far. Then go back and try it with a 25-30# pack at, say, Level 5-6. For 30 minutes. This is not to say the Step Mill is the preferred way to train for hiking, but when more realistic scenarios are not practical, it will definitely keep you in the game. I doubt anybody who has ever used one would disagree, but I could be wrong about this.
Jul 25, 2012 at 7:17 pm #1897593Uphill is easy, but downhill has always put stress on my thighs, knees and ankles. I was able to solve this by running up and down steps at the football stadium downtown which they leave unlocked for hard core chumps who run conditioning on the steps.
Jul 25, 2012 at 8:18 pm #1897607I loved those Step Mill's. I haven't seen one in quite a while. I remember preferring to slow things down so that gravity would give me a workout.
It still isn't the type of training I'd go for, at least not for PCT hiking. I think the PCT is too level to need that kind of training.
This topic makes me miss the Aztec Bowl stadium that used to exist at SDSU. That was a GREAT place to do stadium runs. I suppose it's still there, but working out there is not nearly the same.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/oct/01/aztec-bowls-glory-resurfacing/Jul 25, 2012 at 8:24 pm #1897609"Uphill is easy, but downhill has always put stress on my thighs, knees and ankles. I was able to solve this by running up and down steps at the football stadium downtown which they leave unlocked for hard core chumps who run conditioning on the steps."
That's actually a hamstring issue. Your hamstrings are tight and or unbalanced with respect to the strength of your quads. I.e, your hamstrings need to get stronger.
Jul 25, 2012 at 9:29 pm #1897626Huh.
I'll look into that in the morning.
Thank-you!Jul 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm #1897791So now that i have a great list of training exercises the next step for me is putting together a repeating weekly routine. I find that having a schedule helps keep me commited. So what do all of your workout routines look like? I would like to see what all of you are doing on a regular basis to stay in shape.
Jul 26, 2012 at 3:55 pm #1897808mine generally goes like so:
Monday and Fridays I strength train- mostly body weight exercises (pushups/pullups/situps/dips/etc), but some weight work as well- squats, bench, thrusters (these are a great lift!)
Tues/Wed are my easy runs- usually 5-7-ish trail miles, Sat I usually get my long run in- currently 15-20 miles, Sun I get another easy trail run- 5-7-ish miles
Thur is a 0 day :)
I'm flexible w/ my schedule, things can get swapped around or even skipped sometimes (but not too much)
Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 am #1897935There are many, many ways you could design a good training program, but here are a few key principles:
* As a starting point for your program, aim at a day hike/long walk with a pack on most weekends.
* Strength train 2-3 times during the week, leaving 48 hours between ST sessions. You don't need to belong to a fancy gym, you can get in a great workout just using your own bodyweight as resistance.
* Do something with a pack mid-week, whether it is a stairmaster at the gym, steps at your local high-school stadium, walking for an hour, etc
* Do something more intense that really gets your heart rate up for 20-30 minutes at least 1 day per week
* include a rest day somewhere in the week.
* throw in a few weekend hikes along the way, not only will this help you to test and tweak your gear, experiment with nutrition, etc but getting up and hitting the trail again after having done 20 miles the previous day is also part of training for a thru-hikeIf you want to get into running, a Couch to 5K plan is the way to go if you are not a current runner.
Aug 1, 2012 at 10:25 pm #1899420CrossFit will prepare you for just about anything. It's heavy on; squats, lunges, box jumps, jump roping, running plus all the upper body strength you need; pull-ups, push-ups, Olympic lifts, etc. The intensity is great and the verity keeps it interesting.
The only thing I'd add to a 3x/week CrossFit plan would be some trail running to toughen up your feet for high mileage.
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