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    John Doe
    BPL Member

    @jessearl

    I did a 2 day/28 mile hike this weekend in the Ocala National Forest an am thinking about how to improve the experience for next time gear wise.

    I was using a couple of kitchen garbage bags to keep my JRB quilt dry in my G4 pack. I had initially setup my Golite poncho as a tarp shelter but it looked like rain and I'm new to tarp camping so I setup a much larger tarp that I had brought and slept under that.

    I'd like to ditch the much larger and heavier tarp on my next trip and give the poncho another shot as my shelter. But I think I want to use a bivy underneath it to better protect my quilt from the rain.

    Back to the thread title.

    After I purchase a bivy, for example a MLD Superlight Bivy, could I stuff my quilt into the bottom of the bivy, roll it up and then stuff it in the bottom of the pack? Would the outside fabric of the bivy protect the quilt while hiking?

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    Stephen M
    BPL Member

    @stephen-m

    Locale: Way up North

    Hi John,

    It did this on a few trips but with a Waterproof bivy and it worked Ok.

    Cheers,

    #1881743
    Mary D
    BPL Member

    @hikinggranny

    Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge

    The bivy would have to be completely waterproof and seam-sealed to keep your quilt dry. Of course then it will be wet inside from condensation!

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    Inaki Diaz de Etura
    BPL Member

    @inaki-1

    Locale: Iberia highlands

    not only that, you'll need the bivy to be as dry as possible when packing, inside and out. Even if the bivy is waterproof, compression would force any remaining humidity in. Waterproofness is always a relative term.

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    Bryce
    BPL Member

    @antigroundhogday

    Locale: Stamford, CT

    I use a stuff sack as a bivy for my quilt.

    Actually, I never use stuff sacks, but I use my pack liner (compactor or nylofume bag)as a lower body bivy over my sleeping bag. It works well w/ my 9 x 7 foot tarp to keep spray off my lower left and give me a little more flexibility to move around a bit under the tarp w/out fear of getting my down wet. GL!

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    Hiking Malto
    BPL Member

    @gg-man

    I have been storing my quilt in my bivy for years now. I get out of the bivy, pull the mat, then zip up the bivy. I loosely roll it up and put it in the pack. In real wet areas or stream crossing I will pack everything up in a bag as well. The issue is that the water will soak out your quilt if it enters your pack in a major way. But this system keeps your quilt clean, eliminates two stuff sacks and allows a loose pack in pack with will allow the quilt to fill the nooks and crannies among your gear. But completely waterproof, at least my bivy is not.

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    @leaftye

    Locale: SoCal

    My bivy is the stuff sack for my quilt when it's not raining. When it's raining, they go into my over sized clothing stuff sack, and all that goes into a plastic bag.

    I don't really use the bivy as a stuff sack for water protection, but for convenience. The downside is that I often get condensation in the floor of the bivy, so I have to take time at some point to dry it out unless I can hike while airing it out.

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    @rememberthelorax

    The MLD Superlight Bivy is not a waterproof bivy, therefore, to specifically address your question: The MLD Superlight Bivy may not keep your bag/quilt dry if your backpack goes into a stream or if you encounter hours of rain.

    That is what a dry bag is for. Be it a dedicated dry bag or one of the plastic trash compactor bags (just make sure you learn how to close it good enough to prevent water entering it, should your backpack go under while crossing a river) that people like to use these days.

    As a SUL/XUL hiker, a dedicated 15 gram (half an ounce) bonded cuben fiber stuff sack that is 100% devoted to keep my sleeping bag and down jacket dry – no matter what – is 15 grams worth having. Your sleeping bag is arguably the most important item in a SUL/XUL backpack, do what you have to in order to allow it to do its job when it comes time to needing it.

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    Andy Anderson
    BPL Member

    @ianders

    Locale: Southeast

    Where is the best place to purchase a cuben dry bag for my quilt?

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    Link .
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    @annapurna

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    Dan @ Durston Gear
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    @dandydan

    Locale: Canadian Rockies

    +1 on the cuben dry bag. Very good items….keeping that down bag dry is super important on a lot of trips.

    You can go with light cuben (0.5oz or 0.7oz) and it'll do pretty well for a while….maybe 40-50 days. Eventually the cuben near the roll top will start to delaminate due the stresses of rolling and squeezing. I'm using a 1.2oz cuben dry sack now that should last for years….slightly heavier at ~20g vs about 13g for my old one (Granite Gear Uberlight CTF3, 13L).

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