rethinking the sleeping pad

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[Franco Darioli]

well, OK, I have nothing else to do , so here we go…
What about your arms and your legs ?
Forgetting that, you will probably find that you will sweat against that foam
another possible problem is that given the right situation you can get condensation on the floor (often mistaken as water penetration) so that would directly wet out your sleeping bag.
Besides , do you really sleep all night on your back ?
Franco

[Ken Thompson]

rethink the rethinking.

really

[Nick Gatel]

When I was young I didn't use a pad or ground sheet at all. Maybe we need to lighten our age?

[Travis Leanna]

Ken, 'thinking' in it of itself is hard enough. You ask too much.

[K C]

I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back? It's not natural as far as I'm concerned, it does not keep the spine in neutral, that is not good. I'm a side sleeper and think that the side position with about 20 degrees of hip flexion requires about a 15-20 inch wide pad with perhaps a hour glass shaped torso pad would work for side sleepers. That could cut some weight.

[Jerry Adams]

When it's cold and my arm or leg go off the pad and lay directly on the ground they get cold, like they'll get numb after a while.

But I like the thought process here.

I don't sleep comfortably on foam pad, I use heavier air mattress. I could have air mattress just under torso where it's needed and foam the rest of area to keep warm.

[Daryl and Daryl]

I've slept in a float coat a few nights. This is pretty close to your idea but with closed cell foam on all sides. Worked pretty well.

I had a bit of condensation between my shoulder blades but that was about it. The coat fit fairly loosely so I think the moist air was able to escape as I slept. I'm a side sleeper and change positions often during the night.

I certianly wouldn't rule out your idea without trying it.

[Nick Gatel]

"I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back?"

Yes, my dog; and he snores when he does. Most of the time he sleeps on his side and sometimes on his stomach too.

Hmm… seems I do the same.

[Nick Gatel]

Most of the time I sleep on my side. And until just a year or so ago I mostly used a foam pad. Torso length only the past few years. Not as young as I used to be.

The only sore spot I get is at my hip, but I am pretty skinny so it is mostly bone down there. I have been pretty happy with my NeoAir. But I have been thinking about just using a NightLite and putting my partially inflated Kooka Bay pillow under my hip. Going to try that one of these weekends.

[Ultra Magnus]

"I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back? It's not natural as far as I'm concerned, it does not keep the spine in neutral, that is not good. I'm a side sleeper and think that the side position with about 20 degrees of hip flexion requires about a 15-20 inch wide pad with perhaps a hour glass shaped torso pad would work for side sleepers. That could cut some weight."

Some mammals sleep standing up. If we could get that figured out, we wouldn't need any pad at all…

BM

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