Mar 24, 2012 at 9:47 pm #1287781
Deleted by the author because I don't want to offend anyone.Mar 24, 2012 at 9:55 pm #1858967
Mostly because Americans are the fattest people on the planet perhaps? Looking to make new friends?Mar 24, 2012 at 9:56 pm #1858969
Middle age… eat too much… slower metabolism… eat too much…Mar 24, 2012 at 10:04 pm #1858974
I just thought it was a legitimate question. time to make my thread go away.
Hey Ben, I'm 35. That middle age stuff doesn't work.Mar 24, 2012 at 10:06 pm #1858975
"Hey Ben, I'm 35. That middle age stuff doesn't work."
Give it time… won't be long now…Mar 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm #1858976
Nah. I drive less than 5000 miles a year. I hike/run 50 miles a week. I have a newfound love for Ultra Marathon's also. Doing the Run Rabbit Run 50 and the Bear Chase 50 this year. Not a chance. :)Mar 25, 2012 at 8:00 am #1859067
Check back in 20 years.Mar 25, 2012 at 8:07 am #1859068
@kat_pLocale: Pacific Coast
Can you at least tell us what the OP was ? Maybe using some diplomacy??Mar 25, 2012 at 9:57 am #1859117
I think i know what you are asking judging by the responses.. but maybe not.
Anyhow, I became a fat pig after two of my thru hikes.
Mainly from comparative lack of activity and eating like I was still hiking 14 hours a day.
I still train all year but it's pretty hard to compare an 8 mile hike twice a week to 25 miles a day everyday for 4 months.
After my third hike, and having lost 20 lbs doing it, I made a concerted effort to keep active and re-train my eating habits.
Have i been successful? Not really.. i like beer.
I definitely wont win any beauty contests but that has never been my intention.
I am healthy and now know I could walk out my door and accross the planet with the only limiting factors being time and money.. not my body.
I choose to identify with the mental strength I have gained from experience and the spirit i have fostered instead of how I look or how small my waist line is.
Of the younger friends that hiked with, many stayed skinny after the trail. Some gained weight.
Us "older" folks mostly gained weight.
We like beer.
Gaining weight does not seem to be an inhibiting factor to the completion of long distance hikes since the weight is lost quite quickly out on the trail in the first weeks of the hike.
Another interesting factoid regarding gender and weight loss on long trails;
Guys lose a lot of weight and get the "T-Rex" physique (big legs and tiny arms only suitable for eating) while gals lose very little weight.
Womens bodies switch into survival mode and become more efficient or something.
It is a really weird phenomenon.
For my next hike i plan on having Ron Bell make me a cuben fiber wheel barrow to haul my gut with. :)Mar 25, 2012 at 10:29 am #1859134
"For my next hike i plan on having Ron Bell make me a cuben fiber wheel barrow to haul my gut with. :)"
That is FUNNY!!!! Good laugh to start the day.Mar 25, 2012 at 10:34 am #1859136
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
I think that once the starvation response has been activated, the body will want to store fat.Mar 25, 2012 at 11:39 am #1859156
It gets funnier.
Part of the original reason i got into longdistance hiking was because i was turning 40.
I was losing my body to time and my youthful perception of myself no longer jibed with the reality of my physical form.
It was on the CDT in 2010 when a piece of my molar fell out of my mouth when i came to the stark realization that my body is finally falling apart due to age and wear.
I carried that piece of tooth to the next town and even tried to glue it back in place with some 2hr epoxy to no avail.
I already had grey hair but this was something new.. a part of my body had fallen off.
I resolved to identify with the "light" instead of the "light buld" which is the vehicle.
Now i am free to fall apart at will. I am okay with that. I will never be 20 years old again.
But my journey is not over yet…Mar 25, 2012 at 1:45 pm #1859187
@eugeneiusLocale: Nuevo Mexico
To hear people here talk about "middle age" and turning 40 as if it's some pivotal point in life where you just concede to the slow decline of your body is about the biggest cop out I've heard. Age is a figure that's all in your head, a crutch that so many people use to excuse inactivity. We live with our bodies everyday, it is habitual neglect and poor choices that accumulate, not a year turning on a calendar that is to blame. You can do things at 40 that you never dreamed about doing at 20. Age isn't a weakness. Don't give me the "Oh, just wait until you're my age" speech, or "Wait 20 years" talk, it's all rubbish.
Excuses.Mar 25, 2012 at 1:57 pm #1859188
I wish that were true, Eugene. I wish that were true.Mar 25, 2012 at 2:03 pm #1859190
Sorry, Eugene, but you will age.
You can slow down the effect, but you will still age.
A good physical fitness plan, carried out, will help immensely. But you will still age.
And then there are things like car accidents, cancer, etc.
When you are 60, you won't be the same as when you are 35. Because you have aged.Mar 25, 2012 at 2:13 pm #1859193
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
I'm not getting any older. I simply quit celebrating my birthdays.
Remember, it's not how old you are that counts, it's how old you think you are.
–B.G.–Mar 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm #1859195
@eugeneiusLocale: Nuevo Mexico
I'm a foolish optimist with a big mouth, that's for sure. Forgive my immature brashness.
I understand Stephen and you're right, our bodies will inevitably succumb to unexpected events and trauma (accidents, cancer, disease, genetics, etc), but our mind, attitude, outlook, and willpower does not have to. It seems that it is instilled in our culture here in America to fear being of middle age or a senior. Why? That's a sad outlook on life. To always be looking at the past thinking "Man, if I were only 20 again!" doesn't do you any good at 30, 40, 50, etc. I'm not saying it's easy, but we do have some choice. I have seen my father who is now 52 cultivate a life of activity and seen this payoff for him. Maybe my inspiration is atypical here in America, but it is a possibility and not out of the realm of reality.Mar 25, 2012 at 2:20 pm #1859197
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> "middle age" and turning 40 as if it's some pivotal point in life where you just
> concede to the slow decline of your body is about the biggest cop out I've heard.
40 is young. Seriously. We see 80 year olds still walking in the mountains. The secret is, as someone once said here on BPL, is 'never stop'.
CheersMar 25, 2012 at 2:44 pm #1859207
"Maybe my inspiration is atypical here in America…"
Actually, no, not atypical at all. I still remember the "jogging craze" back in the mid / late '70s. Baby boomers in their '30s were pretty determined they were not going to age like their parents — and were equally sure that if anybody could avoid aging, it would be they.
Of course it pays to keep healthy and in shape regardless of age. Ah, but youthful exuberance to think that aging is rubbish…Mar 25, 2012 at 7:28 pm #1859284
My motivation was the opposite – my dad died of heart disease when he was 52. So did a couple of uncles and an aunt, all on my dad's side. That gave me a lot of motivation to stay fit.
Then I got cancer at 53! Couldn't believe it wasn't heart disease! "No, no, we don't get cancer, we get heart disease!" By the time that was over, I'd gained 20 lbs and lost my lean century-riding cyclist physique. It's taken me seven years to lose ten of those pounds and get back to halfway decent shape.
So in spite of what I was at 30, 40 and even 50, as I'm coming up on 60, my pride in my fitness (pre-cancer) is knocked out of me, and I'm still determinedly fighting to get back into good condition, so I have as much chance as possible to maintain fitness in my 60s, 70s and 80s.Mar 25, 2012 at 7:36 pm #1859289
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
Stephen, it is that white beard that is going to do you in. Get a little Grecian Formula going, and you will feel like a young buck again.
–B.G.–Mar 25, 2012 at 8:05 pm #1859303
@paulmagsLocale: People's Republic of Boulder
My climbing partner (and frequent backpacking partner and ski partner..hell just call him one of my closest outdoor buddies!) is turning 50 next month.
I have to remember he is only a decade younger than my Dad.
He has an active lifestyle and is better shape than most guys 20 yrs younger then him.
He's slowed down…by his standards. His standards are still better than most.
As I approach 40, I think of where my Dad was when he was my age. 210 lbs (if not more) on his 5'6" frame, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and so on.
I try to keep an active lifestyle. Overall, think I do OK..esp compared to my peers back East that I went to high school with.
More fun to be fit than to be fat. :)
Hope it continues.Mar 26, 2012 at 7:40 am #1859408
@sarbarLocale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
For the "age is just a number" crowd I'll say this:
I had my first child at 24. Had my second at 37, third at 38 (and turned 39 2 weeks later). Age isn't just a number. I might have wisdom, patience and money to afford great health care but oh woiw, did I feel my "advanced maternal age" ones more. I creaked and groaned even though I was in better shape physically than when I was 24. Age will get ya simply ;-)Mar 26, 2012 at 8:24 am #1859432
My motivation was the opposite – my dad died of heart disease when he was 52.
I should have had similar motivation, my dad's first (and fatal) heart attack was at age 51. He was a lean, mean, rock hard working machine … 5'10" and about 145 lbs and probably could have rivaled Roger Staubach's fabled 7-8% body fat composition. I have the same paternal side genetic situation as Stephen. I never expected to see 60'th birthday … didn't try hard too either. Perhaps the genetic dice rolled kindly for me, mom's family tends towards longer life. I started to work more at fitness when I reached 50. It ain't easy to reverse 50 years of everything that contributed to where'd I'd gotten myself to. Success is mixed and variable.
Age sixty is only a memory now but I'm committed to keeping working at it.
Folks who are expecting that age will not matter might consider John Glenn's retirement message … "In spite of all our modern medicine there's still no cure for the common birthday". This a former marine who was in superb shape at the age of 40, likely better shape than all who are reading this.
BTW, He's 90 now and I missed seeing him by just a couple days when visiting Kennedy Space Center last month.
Also BTW, I won't dispute that some folks maintain superb fitness to advanced age. I know one. He is in his seventies now and could step on a scale today and make the weight he wrestled at in college. He IS disciplined but he acknowledges that he has to WORK at keeping his weight UP!. Decades ago I had a cycling buddy who once said "It's D**M hard work keeping my weight up (6'3", 190 reasonably muscular lbs). He was active but not to an extreme degree. Lifestyle choices are important but are not always the entire story.Mar 26, 2012 at 9:09 am #1859453
>I was losing my body to time and my youthful perception of myself no longer jibed with the reality of my physical form.
I can relate to that. It became impossible to get myself thru all things physical on willpower alone, as I had done for years. But Eugene may have it right, by staying active your entire life, it may not be that big of a deal to age. Those of us that let ourselves go for 20 years, siting at a desk, or had a serious illness, etc. face a much, much tougher battle trying to get back to where we want to be. It's taken me 2 years of pretty hard work to lose 20+ pounds, and to get where it's not that big a deal to go ride my bike for 60-70 miles (like I did in Moab last week. Awesome!) Still can't force myself to like running. Doing a quick trip to Big Bend this weekend, we'll see if the work has payed off.
Anyway…….to steal a quote I heard somewhere…."genetics loads the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger".
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