Jan 21, 2012 at 6:15 pm #1284485
Newt won SC today. Sigh…Jan 21, 2012 at 6:33 pm #1827877
For a minute I thought we were bashing BPL leadership again. Just politics as usual, I'm moving on to other things.Jan 21, 2012 at 6:38 pm #1827878
Strange, reads like you were actually disappointed after clicking to find the topic not about bashing BPL leadership?? As a mere individual, I don't pretend to have the answers, but I do have my views. Given the state of affairs of our nation today, I am sorry that you see this as "politics as usual and you're moving on"…Jan 21, 2012 at 6:46 pm #1827880
No Ben I was just glad to see we weren't about to start another nasty thread. That is something we could probably have less of in this community. "Politics as usual" to me just means no matter what your views are there are things in politics that will make you want to rip your hair out. I'll keep up with the issues and vote when I need to but for me thats a ways off and tonight I want to relax, and politics makes me want to rip my hair out and do unrelaxing things.Jan 21, 2012 at 6:47 pm #1827881
I am a bit confused these days.
I don't understand politics.
I am voting for Ron Paul because I understand what he says when he is speaking even though i don't always agree.
Even if he does not get the nod, I will write him in.
I like enough of his ideas and I know; as president, only some of his ideas will ever come to pass if any at all.
Yes, I understand that by writing him in I am sending a vote towards the current administration because it wont be a vote for the "official" republican nominee.
It is a matter of principle.
I know it is bad form to speak about politics and religion at the bar.
Well.. I don't believe in god and this ain't a bar.Jan 21, 2012 at 6:52 pm #1827884
I misread. Though you are cynical, you are right. However, we have had great leaders in the past…Jan 21, 2012 at 6:58 pm #1827887
I editted a bit but your understanding is still on…
Maybe its because I like history I have my views. There have always been scoundrels and complete idiots in politics with the occassional great leader. Even very smart well intened leaders have made mistakes and left mixed legacies. Somehow our country has managed to keep going and its still full of great people, great oppurtunities and great backpacking. Thats all I want to say on politics tonight. Whatever happens over the next year I'm greatfull for what I have. Now I'd better be quite.Jan 21, 2012 at 7:00 pm #1827890
"Yes, I understand that by writing him in I am sending a vote towards the current administration because it wont be a vote for the "official" republican nominee."
You understand wrong, my friend. By writing him in you're casting your vote for the person you want for president. While I don't join you in your admiration for Paul, I applaud you for not succumbing to the lesser-of-two-evils mindset that far too many voters have. It's a mindset that continually leaves us with lousy presidents.Jan 21, 2012 at 7:03 pm #1827894
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
"However, we have had great leaders in the past…"
In the past. :(Jan 21, 2012 at 7:06 pm #1827896
"I know it is bad form to speak about politics and religion at the bar.
Well.. I don't believe in god and this ain't a bar."
I like that.
Ron Paul is completely bewildering to me; how can somebody get so much so right while also getting so much so wrong?
That said, I hope he stays in the race and runs 3rd party. Whether or not he can win, someone in the debates needs to call B.S. on all these corporate huckster warmongers- democrat and republican alike.
And well said Doug. If my vote is to count for anything (which I really question these days) let it at least go to someone that might inspire me.Jan 21, 2012 at 7:12 pm #1827899
+1 to Doug's post.Jan 22, 2012 at 7:14 am #1828046
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
It's not the lesser-of-two-evils mindset that's screwing everything up
It's "the best government that money can buy" mindset that's screwing everything up
Pass a constitutional amendment that says corporations can't spend money on politics and individuals limited amount,
and no difference between direct contributions or buying "attack ads"
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