Aug 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm #1278363
How do you guys get to SUL? Do you end up just buying really expensive light equipment or do you just end up cutting something out of your gear list all together? What sort of things would you consider essential to your list that you can't go without? What would be a list of items needed to survive a multi day trip or even better a thru hike going SUL?Aug 21, 2011 at 8:16 pm #1771789
In midwest summer conditions and short trips, easy and inexpensive:
If at low altitude/balmy locale, nix sleeping bag.
If out of bug season, nix bug shelter/repellent.
If forecast favorable, nix shelter/rain gear.
In many cases, nix cook kit.
If plenty of water on route, nix treatment and carrying capacity.
Price for weight loss generally goes up as challenges increase and one cannot afford to skimp on certain "essentials." It is quite simple to go SUL on a midwest summer overnight with a just a pad, bivy, pack, dinner, breakfast, and water and clothing worn plus sundries. Elevation, seasons, length of trip, bear regulations, and other considerations increase the cost of SUL substantially, as to "afford" proper rain gear or shelter one might have to switch to cuben, or to cope with colder conditions one must bring more insulation. With my current gear and budget I could not hope to be happy (survivable vs. happy, note difference) on a weeklong SUL trip at 10K' with lows in the 20s (F); I would need to upgrade several major gear pieces to lighter and more expensive options.
I'll let the mountain folks, and those who have put more expensive gear and fabrics into the equation, speak from here.Aug 21, 2011 at 10:07 pm #1771808
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
SUL= mulipule use items and reducing the amount of items you have. If i'm not expecting rain or crazy thunderstorms no shell or shell pants, i just take a good dwr'd windshirt. lightest smallest tarp is under $175 and under 4oz. a zub 9oz 20liter pack is good. using your skills to select a warmer campsite is free for weight on the scale.
and i live in the northern rockies were sub 30F is possible everyday of the summer and happens quite often. as does snow and thundershowersAug 24, 2011 at 4:45 pm #1772565
@bster13Locale: Norwalk, CT
Start searching the forums for SUL gear lists. I learned a lot there.Aug 24, 2011 at 5:41 pm #1772586
This write up was the most accessible sub 5 gear list I have seen:
My first sub 5 trip!Aug 24, 2011 at 6:15 pm #1772595
Thru hike gear lists and references:
Warner Springs Monty
Krudmeister did the PCT in 2009
http://krudmeister.blogspot.com/Aug 24, 2011 at 8:49 pm #1772648
There are several SUL lists here:
Here are a few samplings:
Can't find one of my favorites though
TonyManAug 25, 2011 at 8:32 am #1772732
Awesome, thanks for the links. I have a lot of reading and research to do now :) I'm sure more questions will be coming once I read all of these when I get home from work.
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