May 11, 2011 at 11:05 am #1273660
I've been perplexed by a gear system problem, so I decided to leverage the nerd-alytical types that hang out here.
Problem statement: need a tool(s) to accomplish the following functions:
cut cheese blocks, 2.5" thick
cut slices of cotto or hard salami or peperoni
cut masonry twine
pick up pots full of boiling water from stove
Open cans of tuna
Cut moleskin or duct tape
Total costs: <$100
Current solution: Leatherman Juice CS4 (152g/5.4oz) and a p-38 can opener. The extra can opener is because the opener on Leatherman tools sucks. I thought about replacing the Juice with a Micra shaving 2oz but I still need to carry an extra can opener. Or should I get a UL swiss army knife (they normally come with a passable opener) and a Ti grabber. Does Gerber or another manufacturer make an UL tool w/ a decent opener?May 11, 2011 at 11:14 am #1735390
@brendansLocale: Fruita CO
Why not take pouches of tuna instead of cans? lighter packaging and you don't need a can opener. use bandana or clothing as potholder and get a victronix classic or wenger esquire (better scissors) at .7oz.May 11, 2011 at 11:22 am #1735396
@bestbuilderLocale: Pacific Northwest
Jared, I only use the Swiss Army Knife (SAK) classic at 0.7 oz. It can do most of the above:
Cut cheese- shave the cheese with the blade or cut all the way around the block either way the job is done
Hard salami etc- stick the blade straight into the "log" and rotate it around, works like a charm
Cut twine- the scissors on he SAK classic are better than a blade for this- I do it all the time.
Pick up pot- install a Ti spoke for a bail and use a stick, problem solved.
Tuna can- I use tuna in foil pouch so I don't have this problem, before that I carried the p-38 (I bent a few in my time)
Cut moleskin/duct tape- the scissors work best here
Of course you can justify why you need a multi-tool but that is a mental not physical decision.
Save almost 5 oz and dump the multi-tool!May 11, 2011 at 11:22 am #1735397
I've done the bandana-as-a-potholder thing and truthfully I'm a klutz and frequently burn myself sloshing boiling water around.May 11, 2011 at 11:24 am #1735399
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
msr titan pot holder(1.0oz)
cheap coghlans can opener (0.3oz)
classic swiss army knife.(0.7oz)
2oz for three items if you want to do all those thingsMay 11, 2011 at 11:26 am #1735400
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
switch to a titanium pot, pick it up by the rim, where there is no boiling water.
No tools required.
Bring a small knife with smaller scissors for the other tasks.May 11, 2011 at 11:26 am #1735401
I usually take pouches, but they are not always available in the desired size or varieties (canned smoked ham doesn't come in pouches, most pouches for chicken are 10oz at my store (too big), sometimes I have to resupply in towns near the trail and it not available at all).May 11, 2011 at 1:00 pm #1735453
Check out the Leatherman PS4. Scissors, pliers, knife, screw drivers all for 2 oz.May 11, 2011 at 11:05 pm #1735669
Mike In SocalParticipant
Might I suggest a different approach? Either get rid of the stated problem (ie the "need") or change the problem itself. If you are willing to spend up to $100 to drop maybe a couple oz, then it might be cheaper to keep your current solution. If the goal is to further lighten your load, then you can still keep your current solution and get rid of something else in your gear system (and it wouldn't cost $100). The Leatherman Juice CS4 is a nice tool but then again, I also like to get and play with new toys, uh, tools.
If you group the needs by function, then you have cutting, lifting, and can opening.
I like Cameron's idea. Switch to a titanium pot (no lifting tool needed) and use a smaller knife like the Derma-safe blade for cutting and continue using your p-38 for can opening.
By the way, I just got the Micra. The one thing I don't like (and it's a big deal to me) is that there is no tool that is outside-accessible. I have to unfold it to even access the knife.May 15, 2011 at 6:50 pm #1736987
I saw the GSI Microgripper but couldn't get it without paying as much for shipping as it would've cost. I wasn't able to get one at the local outfitter unfort.
So I made my own from a silicone mini-muffin pan. Combine that witha small folding knife, and the P-38 can opener. I now have all 3 for 1.3 oz. Yay me!
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