May 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm #1273307
I have been unable to find a lighter weight Merino Wool fabric than 150 g/m^2 (4.5 oz/yd) anywhere. I am looking to get a t-shirt and a pair of boxer briefs in a lighter weight merino wool fabric than this. Does anyone know of any manufacturer that makes clothes out of a lighter merino wool fabric than 150 g/m^2? Any help would be appreciated.
I know BPL used to carry black Merino Wool t-shirts that were 115 g/m^2 but it seems they don't carry them any more. I think they even had boxer briefs available in this fabric as well. Are there plans to bring these products back any time soon?
-SidMay 4, 2011 at 2:42 pm #1732974
@brendansLocale: Fruita CO
There are some blends that are lighter, but they're tough to find as well. Patagonia's Merino 1 is 108 g/m and is 63/37 merino/poly and Montbell's super merino is 130 g/m and is 92/8 merino/nylon.May 4, 2011 at 3:41 pm #1733001
Those both seem like great options, especially the Patagonia Merino 1. 108 g/m^2 is really light. I am having trouble finding them online, however. Why is everyone discontinuing light merino fabrics??
-SidMay 4, 2011 at 3:48 pm #1733006
@woodsieLocale: Middle Tennessee
small and xl available…May 4, 2011 at 4:22 pm #1733020
They are discontinuing them because just about anything below 190 has to be babied. You can kind of get by with 150/165 but a stray branch has a good chance of causing a snag or rip. But it varies company to company in that I have some Stoic wool 150s that can take some abuse while the Patagonia of the same weight are thinner but can give a little.May 4, 2011 at 4:25 pm #1733021
And the I guess the fact that they are a total PITA to make that thin.May 4, 2011 at 4:38 pm #1733031
@brendansLocale: Fruita CO
Yeah I think it might have to do more with the manufacturing. If I remember correctly BPL was having a hard time finding someone willing to work with the really light stuff. I've had no durability issues with the Icebreaker 150 stuff, and it's definitely seen some bushwacking and sides of sandstone slot canyons.May 4, 2011 at 5:23 pm #1733052
I think I may have to settle for the 150 g/m^2 merino. Do you guys prefer Smartwool or Icebreaker? I've used smartwool socks and think they are great but I've never had any experience with any Icebreaker products. I'm looking to get a t-shirt and a pair of boxer briefs. Suggestions?
-SidMay 4, 2011 at 5:25 pm #1733053
I have only tried smartwool socks but I find the icebreaker gear really good.May 4, 2011 at 5:52 pm #1733069
I've got a smartwool microweight tee that I wear quite often and like pretty well…
Doesn't seem particularly fragile or in need of babying, though also not bulletproof.
I'd definitely get another one or recommend them to others.May 4, 2011 at 6:24 pm #1733080
@vintagegentLocale: Galveston TX
"Do you guys prefer Smartwool or Icebreaker?"
I have merino items in both (as well as Ibex) and they're all about the same, which is to say, pretty darn nice. This is one example where I'd decide based on price.May 4, 2011 at 6:48 pm #1733086
I prefer Icebreaker based on different styles and fit, but there was some concern in a previous thread that the Smartwool was a better snug compression-style fit. I hike in 150 merino year round.May 4, 2011 at 6:56 pm #1733092
@ultraliteMay 4, 2011 at 8:33 pm #1733146
@forest-2Locale: Hunter Valley - Australia
I've just purchased some Mountain Designs 150g/sm merino clothing. A tee shirt and a pair of long pants.
They feel good and the shirt is great.
As for the pants I purchased them like I do for all my baselayers – to be a form fitting item. I wasn't too happy when I was pulling them on after a few uses when the top side where my hand pulling them up with ripped a nice 2" hole into the material.
It sure is a light fabric and has it's uses. For me anything that will see some hard wearing use or abrasion I'll be taking my 200g/sm stuff and it's much more durable.May 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm #1733153
I went thru a review period for LS Merino within the last year which included lines from Ibex,Icebreaker and Patagonia. I thought I was going to prefer the Patagonia as its wrists had no separate band material(terminology?). Then I found Patagonia wrists would not stay tight to the wrist(ruled out). Icebreaker form fit lines were too tight. I kept the Icebreaker line of looser fit(UTurn). I fell in love with the Ibex Indie's. A good middle weight fabric(195g/m2) with loose fit but not baggy.
I just ordered the Indie T's(SS) and love them and Ibex must love me as I am paying their excessive prices.May 4, 2011 at 9:10 pm #1733156
Pretty good stuff but rather pricey.
Sometimes you can find weird sales on their stuff though. A few months ago I got a soft shell off their site for 50% off because it wasnt the black color (it is blue). Wasnt even clearance.
I dont think it is worth an extra $15 for ibex ss instead of icebreaker ss though.May 4, 2011 at 9:14 pm #1733158
"I dont think it is worth an extra $15 for ibex ss instead of icebreaker ss though."
I love Ibex stuff, and am willing to pay a bit more since most of their stuff is made in the U.S.May 5, 2011 at 12:51 am #1733205
I think I'm going to go with Ibex. I decided I'd like my merino short sleeve to have a chest zipper for easier body temperature regulation. The Echo Sport Zip with half zipper from Ibex is 150 g/m^2 and is 100% merino, rather than a merino/synthetic blend. Interestingly, It comes in a color called "Sea Grass/Nickel", which looks identical to the color of my BPL Beartooth Merino hoody. Seems like a winner to me.
I was also considering the Ace Shirt which uses the same weight fabric, but that one is a button up. Perhaps that would be even better for temperature regulation than a half zipper? Although I'm not sure if it would be needed.
I'm also getting the Woolies Boxer from Ibex, which is also 150 g/m^2.
All together it looks like I'll be spending around $120 plus shipping. This will be one expensive experiment to see if I would prefer merino in warm weather instead of synthetic or cotton. I don't like how bad breathability seems to be with synthetic and I don't like how long it takes for cotton to dry. If merino is not too warm in the summer months, it may solve these issues for me.
Any input on these choices before I go for it?
EDIT: Added links to Ibex choices.May 5, 2011 at 1:17 pm #1733426
great stuff. i've worn my indie hoody 3+ times a week for a couple months and it still looks new.May 5, 2011 at 4:41 pm #1733499
Well I can see now why you are so sensitive to the weight of your merino wool baselayers. You live in "Central Florida"!
:)May 6, 2011 at 8:29 pm #1734016
I've got a hooded Indie, very nice garment, but I'd class it as more midweight vs lightweight- I've got a Patagonia Merino 1 that I would class as lightweight. Mine (Merino 1) has not been babied, probably the opposite and it's holding up fine- I think this is at least in part due to the syn blend mixed in
I started a thread a while back on merino's suitability in the tropics, I'm definitely keeping my eyes peeled for very lightweight merino- the MB stuff looks promising and Patagonia may be bringing back their Merino 1 this fall (at least that's what the told me)
I'd love to get ahold of a BPL like (115 gram) short sleeve :)May 6, 2011 at 8:35 pm #1734018
Doug, I was curious why you go Ibex instead of icebreaker or smartwool other then the fact it is made in the US. I looked at it the other day at rei when getting a new merino wool and it didnt seem any better than the icebreaker stuff.
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