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    Ben Franklin
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    @brokeenthusiast

    I have a Granite Gear Meridian Vapor (M/Long) that I currently use but I think it has too much room for my needs and I don't like the layout of it. The top flap that can be turned into a fanny pack drives me nuts, and it seems like there is no smaller storage compartments for odds and ends. I know its not the lightest system but I seem to like the Osprey packs, and have been considering the Kestrel and Exos series.

    Below are some pictures of what I use apart from clothing and food. Do you think I should downsize? Any pack or gear recommendations? I typically do 3 day 2 night hikes or sometimes just overnight. I can go into more of what I carry if specifics need to be discussed for weight purposes.

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    #1699760
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    hard to tell from the pics, but if your volume is relatively low you should be able to go to a 40-ish liter pack pretty easily for 2-3 days trips, I used a Exos 46 for up to week long trips, the frame allows comfortable carry up to ~ 35#'s

    Osprey has a new pack that might also meet your needs- the Hornet, lighter yet than Exos, but still framed (albeit lightly)- should work well for 2-3 day trips as well

    If your gear is getting into the very low volume end, you could probably even go to a 30-ish liter pack

    #1699788
    Robert Perkins
    Spectator

    @rp3957

    Locale: The Sierras

    Mike – When you used your Exos 46, did you ever use a bear can with it? It sounds like the feedback I have got is that they will fit vertically, but no one has told me how much functional space is left with it in. I am looking at either the Exos 58 or 46, and am leaning toward the smaller 46. Osprey list the Med as having 2900 cu in. My current packs are around 3200 cu in, and everything fits fine. Thanks for any info.

    #1699795
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    Your GG pack is no bigger than the Exos 46. GG overstates the volume of that pack. You would be making a lateral move in volume.

    #1699811
    Andrew F
    Member

    @andrew-f

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    Robert – I bought an Exos 46 and returned it because it doesn't fit a bear can well. I could fit a Garcia in vertically, but since the back panel is so curved on the inside of the pack, it basically took up the entire volume of the pack and I couldn't fit the rest of my gear inside.

    The Hornet 46 on the other hand, doesn't have the same curved back panel and actually fits a bear can pretty well. It is also significantly lighter than the Exos 46. However, the frame is less substantial than the Exos and I wouldn't want to carry much more than 20-25 lbs in it.

    I now use the Hornet 46 for 2-3 day trips and a Lowe Alpine Zepton 50 for longer trips with more food. The Zepton 50 swallows a bear can with no problems, but is a little bigger than the Exos if you are trying to down-size pack volume.

    Andrew

    #1699813
    Eugene Smith
    BPL Member

    @eugeneius

    Locale: Nuevo Mexico

    "I can go into more of what I carry if specifics need to be discussed for weight purposes."

    Ben,

    Please do, right now your questions are a shot in the dark- post a gear list.

    What's in the stuff sacks shown in your link? What gear do you require for your outings? Where are you spending the majority of your time backpacking?

    This sort of background will go very far to provide you with the objective feedback that many of the frequenters here can give you.

    #1699827
    Robert Perkins
    Spectator

    @rp3957

    Locale: The Sierras

    Thanks Andrew, that is what I was thinking would be the case. I have taken my gear into my local REI and fit it all with ease into the Exos 58, but they didn't have the Exos 46 to try out. I think you have given me and the OP some other good ideas as well with the Osprey Hornet as well. Thanks

    #1700040
    John Castro-Rappl
    BPL Member

    @jabber

    Ben: I know what you mean with the floating top lid/fanny pack. It drove me to sell my otherwise phenomenal Nimbus Meridian pack, just because I wanted something simpler overall. All that nylon flopping around bugged me to no end. If you're looking for something with the same durability and comfort as your current pack, a Vapor Trail isn't SUL but it is a very reliable pack. I do wish, however, that those compression straps were inside the water bottle pockets rather than over them. Built in hip belt pockets would have been nice too.

    Anyways, long story short I sold my Nimbus Meridian and ended up with a Six Moon Designs Swift. Dropped a lot of weight from my list and still has a ton of room between the pockets and the extension collar. What's your base weight looking like these days?

    #1700184
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    Robert- never used it w/ a canister (all hanging bag where I hike), based on what Andrew and others have said- it's a darn tight fit at best.

    Mike

    #1700191
    Ben Franklin
    Member

    @brokeenthusiast

    Thank you all for the replies, I will try my best to answer everyone's questions. Although I have been hiking for a couple of years, I am still relatively new at all of this so I haven't been crunching numbers on the weights of my gear. I am out of town right now but when I get back I can definitely break it down or search the internet for their weights.

    What you see in the photos from bottom to top are:
    OES maccat deluxe in SpinnUL
    Warbonnet Blackbird Hammock 1.7
    Warbonnet Yeti
    GoLite Ultra 20 down quilt
    Swedish AL version of a Snow Peak 900 with cat can alcohol stove inside

    Obviously I take food and water and those weights vary. Also I don't have a set clothing list that I take with me for each season, I will work on that.

    #1702090
    Warren Greer
    Spectator

    @warrengreer

    Locale: SoCal

    Ben, I'm kinda where you are at. Mostly finished up my gear purchasing for the season. And having a scale made it much easier as it created a picture of where I was at and what items could be lightened up. A real eye-opener. Check out the scale in this thread. http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=40953 Look at the post by Dan Durston partway down the first page. I got that scale and for less than $7.50 delivered, I was able to refine my list and be confident of my weights. I bought a more expensive scale first, but it could not do 1 gram increments. The scale in the thread I mentioned can do .1 grams. You'll appreciate that.

    #1704169
    Ben Franklin
    Member

    @brokeenthusiast

    Blackbird Double Layer 1.7 – 36.5oz
    3-Season Yeti 12.5
    Golite Ultra 20 – 19oz
    MacCat Deluxe – 10.2 oz
    GG pack Meridian Vapor 46oz

    #1705175
    Ben Franklin
    Member

    @brokeenthusiast

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