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Dec 12, 2010 at 8:28 pm #1673705
So I returned the Katadyn Hiker water filter at almost 14oz, and got the Aquamira Frontier Pro at about 2oz. So 12oz shed right there. I also returned my sleeping bag which was listed at 2lbs 6oz, but actually weighed 3.06 lbs!! I am going to buy a Montbell spiral down Hugger #3 long which is 20oz, so 29 ounces lighter!! I have all the supplies to make my cat stove including some aluminum flashing to make a windscreen, but i have been lazy and have not finished it yet. I bought the gsi minimalist cook set which weighs 6.3oz for the pot, cozy, foon, lid, and pot gripper, but I feel like I can get something lighter. After I get everything, I will fit it into my pack and see how much room I have left over, and will buy a lighter pack that doesnt have to be as large. Let me know if I should head a different direction on sleeping bag or cooking setups. I know someone mentioned the golite quilt, but it is the same weight as the hugger #3 and I think I want a bag for the same weight. Thanks!
Dec 13, 2010 at 6:20 am #1673774Funny I did almost the same thing, bought a water filter and returned it, bought a bag sent it back.
Your plan sounds good to me.
One trick with the aquamira, is to hook it up to a platy full of H20 and put some pressure on it.
That was me on the ultra 20. Its rated lower than the #3, but I am a hammock convert and it works better for that.
Dec 13, 2010 at 7:49 am #1673793I'd say you're on the right track. I was in a similar situation to you… only a bit worse when I started off backpacking (Large Alice pack and 6 or 7 pound synthetic 0 degree bag that I don't even want to weigh). You're doing the right thing holding onto your pack and using it until the rest of your system is together so you'll know what you need size wise.
By the time my kit was pretty much completely together, other than settling on some little items like the Frontier Pro filter or just chemical treatmen (for the record I still haven't settled on just one), I was at a 12 1/2 pound base weight. About 6 1/2 of that was the large Alice pack and frame. Nothing feels better than shaving those last 5 pounds all in one go.
Remember you'll need to use bleach in combination with your Frontier Pro to actually kill everything. This is discretionary though depending on where you're at and what actually needs killing.
As far as bags go I'm really happy with my Golite Ultra 20 but the Montbell #3 Spiral bag was really tempting too. They're about the same weight and, honestly, my purchase was driven by cost at the time since they were being discontinued and on sale cheap.
Your cook kit isn't bad but you don't need the pot gripper IMO. Just use a glove… of course this is made easier by having handles but you can still just grab the pot. My cook kit with stove and wind screen comes in at more than ounce lighter than GSI kit.
I went with:
– Backcountry 700ml ti pot at 3.35 ounces pot b/c it was on sale
– It's lid weighs .63 ounces.
– A random off brand thick plastic spork I came across weighs .32 ounces.
– MYOG Pot Cozy made out of an old aluminized automotive sun visor (free). It's .67.
-Pot gripper = sleep sock, wool glove, or bandanna depending on what season it is and what's most convenient. Weight = 0 becaused I'd have to have it any way.That's a total of 4.97 ounces vs. the 6.3 ounce published weight of the GSI kit. The big difference is really the cozy and the lack of pot gripper. The ti pot is a bit better for cooking over an actual campfire, I'd assume, but I haven't tested this theory. More weight could be shaved by using an aluminum foil lid and an even smaller pot. This one is a bit big for its primary purpose (brewing coffee) and would still work for freezer bag cooking at a smaller size. What can I say? It was on sale.
The big downside to this setup? The pot is the only thing you'd really have to shell out for and it's MSRP is at least half again as much as what the GSI setup costs. Look for a sale.
Dec 13, 2010 at 3:00 pm #1673936What do you think of the Gossamer Gear Mariposa Plus Ultralight pack?
Dec 13, 2010 at 6:05 pm #1674007I just got 2 Gossamer gear packs within the past couple months.I haven't used them yet but I like the weights.The Miniposa comes in at 16.98oz and thats the one with the carbon fiber stays.I dont think they sell that one anymore.The Mariposa Plus comes with a single aluminum stay and it weights 21.64oz.I cant wait to try them out.
Dec 13, 2010 at 8:18 pm #1674051Just bought this bag in Long size from prolitegear.com for $216 shipped to my door! Can't wait to get it! Now the only thing left to buy is a lighter backpack!!
Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 pm #1674066I have that bag too. Tried it out in Ga. on the A.T. a couple weeks ago and it was really cold outside the bag.Inside i was sweating like a pig.
Dec 14, 2010 at 4:00 pm #1674255So after recalculations, my new baseweight is 192.6oz (12.03 lbs) with my 3.5 pound pack. I plan on getting the Mariposa plus pack at 23oz, which will subtract another 32oz!! bringing my base weight to 160.6oz (10.03 lbs)
I will be getting lighter NON cotton pants, and will be looking for even lighter options at everything in my pack (No nalgene bottle etc..). I am happy that with an actual tent, sleeping bag and full pad, my baseweight will be right under 10 pounds!!! Almost 25 pounds lighter than the last time i went out!!
I also subtracted 6 ounces from my cook setup. My new cook setup with alcohol cat can stove and snow peak 600 weighs 4oz.
Dec 14, 2010 at 9:27 pm #1674356Congrats on the lighter base weight!
I would definatly go for the Mariposa+. Its what I have and what I used for 2 weeks in philmont and I fell in love with it. They are a great company too, I borrowed the founder's pack for philmont to see if I liked the pack or not. I prefered it to the ULA but thats just me.
Dec 14, 2010 at 11:07 pm #1674372You'll love the Mariposa Plus. You're list is looking real nice now. Its amazing all of the knowledge you'll find on this site. :)
Dec 15, 2010 at 1:49 am #1674399Congrats! You are now an OOfficial UL hiker!
jdmDec 15, 2010 at 9:34 am #1674455I would look for an alternative to 18.5oz trekking poles. There are alternatives from GG that take it down to below 8 oz. And remember this weight is in motion just like your shoes and will be a bigger factor on fatigue than the equivalent weight in your pack.
Dec 15, 2010 at 3:25 pm #1674534Greg,
Sure, he can always go lighter. Been there… It is fun, but it is not always the best IMHO. I have been on overnight fishing trips with just a bag and my cup.
(Well, a bit more, really, but it all fit in my fishing vest…) But, we can talk about that some other time. A single homemade staff only weighs 4.5oz. And costs less than $10.Ron,
In Southern California, I am guessing you can still get out with your gear. Here in the colder climate of NY, I envy you. (Too old to do winter camping anymore.) You will need to get out there and practice with your new gear. You may not trust some of it fully…it IS new, after all. Stay as dry as possible. Bring an extra set of clothing till you get comfortable with what you have. Get used to the stove/pot combination. Monitor your fuel consumption, but, bring a little extra till you *know* how much you will use. Practice setting up the tent. And, taking it down. Don't worry too much about milage, you will get used to doing 20mi/day. Make sure you bring an extra water bottle or two. Till you know exactly how much you need, don't try to cut back on water…bring enough. There are ways to cut back your food till you can get by on about 1.2-2# per day. Enjoy the light pack and light weights on your hikes. Again, A well done job! When are you going SUL? (hey, hey…)
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