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Dec 18, 2010 at 12:51 pm #1675408
another alternative- someone posted (in another thread) using a 1/8" thinlight on the bottom (2 oz) and then a 3/8" thinlight on top (5 oz) w/ the neo in the middle- basically a neo sandwich :)
r value of roughly 4.5
I've got a couple of 1/8" thinlights and already have a neo- so I think I might find a couple of 3/8 thinlights and give it a go
Dec 18, 2010 at 8:26 pm #1675542I recently combined regular Ridgerest and Neoair with a 15*F Marmot Helium and was comfortable down to 6*F (with wool baselayers, MB Alpine light parka, Goosefeet booties, insulated pants, Patagonia R1 pullover and balaclava).
Using the Ridgerest on top of the Neoair seemed warmer for me. It seemed that at temperatures below 15*F heat escapes out the sides of the Neoair and cools the pad too much. Having the Ridgerest with it's R of 2.6 on top seemed to help. I probably would have gotten a Ridgerest Solar if the local gear shop had them.
Dec 19, 2010 at 9:56 am #1675644Hi Ryam
Was it as comfortbale with the Ridge rest on top.
Cheers,
Stephen
Dec 19, 2010 at 12:33 pm #1675684I can't claim to have done extensive "both ways" testing, but my feeling too is that the pad on top is warmer, for just the reasons previously cited.
I used a setup similar to Ryan's on the AT early this year, when temps got down at least some days into the teens. I had the (size regular) neo-sandwhich, for me a 1/8" thinlight below and a 1/4" thinlight above, and from *brief* testing I felt warmer with the thicker ccf pad above (even though it is arguably more comfortable with the neo on top). I was prepared to stack both pads on top if it ever got cold enough to warrant that, but I don't think there was a night when I actually did so.
Clothing, bag etc: 20F WM bag, Montbell alpinelight parka, feathered friends down booties, cap 1 longjohns.
Dec 19, 2010 at 9:58 pm #1675847Hi Stephen,
I am half side sleeper and half back sleeper. In warmer weather I would be more comfortable with the Neoair on top. In colder weather like what I experimented with, having the Ridgerest on top is warmer and therefore more comfortable.
I would say that if the Neoair is deflated slightly that the Ridgerest can flex some with the air pad below and be more comfortable.
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:54 am #1675875Hi folks,
Cheers all the advice. :-)
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