Nov 9, 2010 at 10:14 am #1265295
In case you are XL and want a bit of a deal on my two favorite layering pieces, the Patagonia.com "web specials" area has the Houdini for $90 and the Puffball Vest for $70, both in that muted greenish color.
Lots of other good deals in there, as usual.Nov 9, 2010 at 1:29 pm #1662572
@pittsburghLocale: Bay Area
Why did you have to do that? That deal was too good to pass up, and I got the last XL Houdini. :)
3.7 ounces? How did I overlook that in my PCT preparations?? It's perfect.Nov 9, 2010 at 2:55 pm #1662609
You'll be very happy with it. I used a Marmot Driclime on my thru-hike, but I find the Houdini a much more useful item. Not too hot for most hiking, keeps bugs off, cuts the wind, etc. I use it often over a thin insulating layer, and then the Puff vest for more warmth. A great item for 4 oz.Nov 9, 2010 at 3:59 pm #1662648
I just picked an alpha green Large on ebay for a little cheaper : ) It is probably a little heavier than 3.7oz with the stand up collar separate from the hood. According to Richard Nisley this iteration doesn't have the "epic type" DWR either. We will see when I get it.
RyanNov 9, 2010 at 4:01 pm #1662650
I have been trying to get one of these but I am thinking I need an XXL – I wear a XX in Marmot & MontBell and a XL in TNF and First Accent gear which is cut a little wider – would you say the Houdini was rather tight or loose for an XL?
Thanks!Nov 9, 2010 at 4:07 pm #1662653
I wear an XL in Montbell (EX Light Down and Alpine Light Down) and have a Large Montbell Peak Shell. All my Patagonia stuff is size Large.
RyanNov 9, 2010 at 4:20 pm #1662656
@dools009Locale: Pacific Northwest
I am 6"2 200lbs with broad shoulders. I wear an XL in Montbell and a Large T in F. Ascent. I can easily fit my XL houdini over my F. Ascent Downlight Hoodie (large) and even have room for an XL F. Ascent downlight vest inside (on top of the jacket). They are cut pretty generously, much larger than normal Patagonia XL's.
brendanNov 9, 2010 at 10:56 pm #1662765
@davidadairLocale: West Dakota
The Houdini I ordered in an XL army green came today. I am about 6-0 and 220 lbs so usualy an XL will fit fine. My chest measures 44 inches and I found it a bit tighter in that area than I prefer. I can zip it over a medium fleece and it doesn't bind but it needs another inch for a decent fit. I wear a 34 sleeve and it is just long enough to cover my arms -but no pulling cold hands in. Hope this helps.
Can anybody recommend a similar item (full zip, hood, DWR, 4 oz) that is available in a larger size?Nov 9, 2010 at 11:07 pm #1662768
I don't have any experience with it but Marmot makes the Trail Wind Hoody in XXL. Weight isn't listed on the Marmot site but the fabric is 1.6oz per square versus 1.1oz for the Houdini. Backcountry.com lists it at 4oz.
RyanNov 10, 2010 at 12:02 pm #1662914
@davidadairLocale: West Dakota
Thanks much Ryan -for some reason I wasn't aware of this one. And they have it in XXL for those of us lacking that svelte athletic build.Nov 10, 2010 at 11:35 pm #1663096
I got my "Houdini" in the mail that I picked up on ebay. It is nothing like my other retail Houdini that I have. It looks just like the Houdini Special that is sold on the Patagonia web site. It has a hide away hood and is labeled as a Level 4 Windshirt Gen II and is a large Long. It is a heavier nylon and is not rip-stop like a normal Houdini. Weight is 10.5oz. It will make a nice winter windshell but not what most of us are looking for.
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