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    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    So, what glue actually works on silnylon?

    I tried gluing a piece of velcro to silnylon with GE Silicone II sealant, and it just peeled right off the silnylon.

    Is the "GE Silicone Glue" a different product altogether?

    #1618907
    Zachary Zrull
    Member

    @zackcentury

    Locale: Great Lakes

    Hi, I'm actually searching for the right adhesive for silnylon as well. So, my suggestions are not from experience, just some online searching. It might be worth it to wipe the silnylon clean and try that same sealant again. Here are some that I would like to try:

    Elastosil N199, they make lots of silicone products http://www.wacker.com/cms/en/products-markets/products/product.jsp?product=9142

    Liquid Nails 207, possibly more available than Elastosil http://www.liquidnails.com/products/product.jsp?productId=74

    Dow 3631, which seems to be designed for fabrics, http://www.dowcorning.com/applications/search/default.aspx?R=950EN

    thanks to anyone who has any info on this topic!

    #1618939
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Try N10 from Wacker as well.

    Cheers

    #1618941
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there

    Sealant is not an adhesive. Try a silicone adhesive sealant. In with the caulks. GE Silicone Glue is the right track to follow. Take a look at the material section again in the article. Wording in the first paragraph or two is misleading where he says GE Silicone ll http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/myog-laminating-silicone-impregnated-fabrics.html

    GE Silicone II glue/sealant. I’m sure there are generic versions of this product, but I have not tried them. VERY IMPORTANT – test the glue with fabric scraps first or buy a fresh tube for every project. I don’t know why, but old product sometimes does not cure in this application.

    #1618955
    Jim Colten
    BPL Member

    @jcolten

    Locale: MN

    This is the "he" mentionined in Ken's reply concurring
    that the wording could be confusing. However, as can he seen here, the manufacturer's name for the product is GE Silicone Sealant II. I dithered over the wording because they do also sell silicone caulk and also tub & shower sealant products … the chances for confusion are inherent.

    Regarding the OP's question … silicone based glues are the only thing I know of that adheres well to silicone impregnated fabrics. However, they are so-so about adhesion to other materials.

    But one could sew velcro to a slightly larger scrap of silnylon and glue the scrap in place.

    #1619033
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    Hey guys, thanks for the suggestions. I'm thinking of rigging up a bug net under a tarp, and I don't want to start putting holes in the canopy–hence the search for a silnylon glue.

    #1619079
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there

    Thanks Jim for the clarification!

    #1722933
    rick mccoll
    Member

    @rgmccoll

    Locale: East Tennessee

    Travis, did you ever find something satisfactory?

    #1723000
    Daryl and Daryl
    BPL Member

    @lyrad1

    Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

    Well I checked out a tube of Wacker N10 at this website:

    N10

    Looks like a little over $300 a tube. Several questions come to mind.

    (1) Is that a good price?

    (2) Do you think I could get a discount if I bought a case?

    (3) What is the scale of the photo? Will the tube fit into my pickup?

    #1723006
    Daryl and Daryl
    BPL Member

    @lyrad1

    Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

    I assumed this price was in dollars but looks like I'm wrong.

    #1723010
    Zachary Zrull
    Member

    @zackcentury

    Locale: Great Lakes

    Daryl,

    Wacker is a German company, that shop you linked is in Estonia, and you're in the northwest. Neither should you have to pay that much, or ship it that far!

    Try to contact Wacker's North American HQ, which happens to be right around the corner from me:
    3301 Sutton Road
    Adrian, MI 49221-9335
    (517) 264-8500
    wacker.com‎

    I'm sure they can tell you who distributes or uses their products, and if you're lucky, they might even get you a sample.

    #1723061
    Benjamin Moryson
    BPL Member

    @hrxxl

    Locale: Germany

    You can also use Elastosil E43 or E199 to glue your silnylon

    #1787451
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    So I stumbled upon one of my old threads today and decided to follow up. I contacted Wacker and they replied within an hour. Their recommendation for gluing silnylon was Elastosil E 952, which is the U.S. version of Elastosil E 43.

    I asked them about purchasing this in small quantities and they said their policy was to sell only to companies and not individuals. Liability issues cited.

    Does anyone have access to Elastosil?

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