May 29, 2010 at 9:33 pm #1259589
Need help scrutinizing my gear list. Goal is pack weighing ~9 lbs (10 lbs is now looking more realistic) without water, fuel, food. I plan to hike from GA -> ME starting mid-March. Need advice on adding hat, bug net, deet and L/S shirt (sun protection).
UPDATED AS OF 30 MAY 2010
– Camera categorized as carried
– Swapped MH Mesa Pant for BPL Thorofare Pant
– Added BPL Thorofare Shirt
– Added BPL Mosquito Net
– Added Headsweats Race Hat
– Added Brunton Compass
– Added Montbell UL Thermawrap Jacket
– Added Aqua Mira Tablets
– Added GG Thinlight 1/8 Pad
TOTAL WORN: 39.6 oz/2.48 lbs
Patagonia Active Boxer Brief 1.5
BPL Light Thorofare Trekking Pant 4
BPL Light Thorofare Trekking Shirt 4.6
Headsweats Race Hat 2
Darn Tough Hike 1/4 Socks 1.5
La Sportiva Fireblade Shoes 24
TOTAL CARRIED: 158.33 oz/9.90 lbs
Darn Tough Hike 1/4 Socks 1.5
Smartwool Adrenaline Crew Socks 2.6
Nike Dri-Fit Running Shorts 3
Icebreaker Tech T-Lite Shirt 5
Duofold Dri-Release Wool Bottom 6.3
Duofold Dri-Release Wool Top 6.3
Frogg Toggs DriDuck Jacket 6
Frogg Toggs DriDuck Pant 4
Montbell U.L. Thermawrap Jacket 10.3
Moutain Hardwear Epic Gloves 4
Smartwool Glove Liners 1.5
Smartwool Beanie 1.6
Sprint Aquatics Mesh Shoes 2
Zpacks Z1 Dyneema X Pack 16
Zpacks Cubin Fiber Pack Cover .95
Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack 8L 1.1
Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack 4L 0.9
Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack 2L 0.8
Platypus 4L Water Tank 3.6
Gatorade Bottle 1.8
Aqua Mira Tablets 0.9
Zpacks Hexamid Solo Tent w/ Screen & Stakes 10
Golite Ultra 20 Quilt 19
Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Small 9
GG Polycro Ground Cloth 1.5
Gossamer Gear Thinlight 1/8 Pad 2
MSR Titan Pot 4.2
Caldera UL Cone 1.05
MRE Spoon 0.5
Alcohol Stove 0.8
Fuel in Dropper Bottle 1
Mini-Bic Lighter 0.5
Hand Sanitizer 0.3
Travel Toothbrush and Tooth Paste 0.5
Dr. Bonner Soap in Dropper Bottle 1
Samsung TL350 10MP Camera 6.2
MSR Packtowel Ultralite Med 1
Dirty Girl Gaiters 1.2
Black Diamond SPOT Headlamp w/ Bat 3
BPL Mosquito Net 0.33
Fisher Space Pen Stowable 0.2
Kelty Triptease Cord 50 ft 1
Geber U.L. LST Knife 0.8
100% DEET in dropper bottle 1
Brunton Classic Compass 1.1
Various 3May 29, 2010 at 10:47 pm #1615177
Nice list. My opinion is once you get down to about 10 lbs small changes don't matter much. You could get down to 5 by dropping every single luxury, but most of us (at least I) don't want to do that.
But there are a few small things you can drop.
Rite-In-Rain Journal 3.2 – use the iphone for journal
Dr. Bonner Soap in Dropper Bottle 2 – probably don't need to carry this much. a bpl mini dropper full is ~ 1 oz.
TP half-roll 2 – use natural techniques, yeah I now but it works very well along with the hiker's bidet
MSR Titan Pot 4.2 – there are lighter options to save 1.5 oz.
Sprint Aquatics Mesh Shoes 2 – do you really need these?
Moutain Hardwear Mesa Pant 11 – just wear the shorts, add wool bottoms when cold or driducks
Things you might want to add:
water purification – aquamira is the lightest
button compass – you never know
gossamer gear 1/8" foam pad to protect the neoair and sit pad
synthetic or down jacket for in camp and to supplement the golite quilt which barely makes it down to 30 let alone 20.
wallet – I like the simblissity, but ziploc baggie also works
Things you asked about:
rei 100% deet in a bpl dropper bottle – ~ 1 oz
baseball cap (use with bandanna to protect neck from sun)
cotton dress shirt. I prefer cotton for sun protection and heet. Does a much better job of keeping one cool than any of the synthetics. Cheap too.
In any case you're pretty much dialed in and can do any necessary fine tuning on the trail.
Just as an aside, not that it matters, but it's probably a bit of a stretch to include your camera in the worn category.May 30, 2010 at 5:36 am #1615194
I see no insulated clothing. What you have listed will likely not keep you warm enough unless you push your start date back.May 30, 2010 at 11:32 am #1615222
Thanks for all your comments. This has been very insightful. I updated my list – see above. Weight is more realistic to me just under 10 lbs.
– I am looking at keeping the Aquatic Shoes as base camp shoes/creek crossing shoes. At 2 oz, I think its nice to have and they a inexpensive enough to get rid of if needed.
– Opted to drop the MH Mesa Pant for BPL Thorofare Pants and Shirt (BTW Anyone know when these will be in stock)
– Currently researching new cooking pot. I liked the MSR Titan because of its lid. Could not find anything else on the market similar. Any ideas?May 30, 2010 at 1:58 pm #1615245
Main issue I see is start date. If you're to begin hiking that early, and the weather is like it was this year, you're going to be trudging through knee-deep snow along the TN/NC line in the smokies. I was up there the first/second week of April, and there was still 3+ feet of snow across the trail in spots. Making mileage through that can be pretty arduous, not to mention the nights will be pretty cold still.
I wouldn't want to be thru-hiking when there's still snow up high, and there was a good deal of it until at least mid april above 6k feet this year.Jun 5, 2010 at 3:00 pm #1617108
@frankenfeetLocale: Great Lakes
Your list is looking very nice. Great work!
Winter snowpack in the Smokies had melted off by April 2nd this year even at the highest elevations. I was there too and recall the dates of my trip precisely. Mat's overall point is valid though his memory might be just a touch hazy. Anyway, exact date of this year's snow pack melt is not really the issue at hand. An early start off of Springer could set you up for some nasty conditions in the Smokies. The smokies are only about a 160 miles into your hike so you could definitely encounter some freaknasty funky conditions in late March or early April with your mid march kickoff. I would be very in tune with understanding the potential for winter conditions in the Smokies and making sure your gear/techniques will keep you safe and comfortable. The potential for winter storms exists well into April and even into May sometimes. I got hammered in a late April "winter storm" (or was it a spring storm?) this year. Check this out if you don't believe me.
click here Be sure to check out the entire thread.Jun 6, 2010 at 4:46 am #1617222
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@sietoLocale: The Netherlands
For a lightweight L/S tee you could look at the Rab Aeon l/s tee. SPF 30, weight around 4.5 oz. I own a s/s version but have a l/s on order. I can recommend the s/s version, l/s should be goot also.Jun 6, 2010 at 2:31 pm #1617332
@callingcardLocale: Kansas City
swap iphone for calling card (I know that might be a non-negotiable, but the way i see it – we're electronically tethered to people all year – the trail is a good place to unplug on a number of levels)
swap gatorade bottle for platypus – .6 oz
Looks like you've got a great list especially to start with – you'll definitely have the dynamic tuning the whole trip. Have funJun 8, 2010 at 6:06 am #1617826
@brianleLocale: Pacific NW
Your list looks pretty well thought out; do you have a charging cord for that iPhone, however?
I'm thru-hiking this year, temporarily off-trail just now fighting off a bout of Giardia. I started on Feb 25th and my feeling is that you're going to be cold even with what you've modified your list to include.
I'm actually using a thermawrap jacket now, and a WM 32F rated sleeping bag and they're plenty for where I'm at (I left the trail in New York). But I started with a WM 20F bag and a Montbell Alpinelight parka, and slept a good few nights wearing both of them — temps got down into the teens in the Smokies and elsewhere this year. I suggest you get something like the Alpine light parka. In fact, I also carried a thermawrap vest that I layered with my windshirt for walking during the day.
Because note also that during the day in the early part of my trip there were some very windy (fairly continuous wind) days, a cold wind indeed. So I liked using my earbags combined with a baseball cap, and definitely some sort of light wind-proof mitten shell Plus a good rag wool or equivalent synthetic mitten. (gloves are rubbish IMO, and unfortunately outdoor stores along the AT don't sell mittens, or only heavy/bulky ones). Don't know about a hood vs. hoodless windshirt, but very nice to have one with a collar that zips all the way up the neck.
I even appreciated having longjohns, which I normally find to be a PITA. They're handy along with shorts when washing clothes in town too, and on the coldest days I even walked with them on a couple of times.
Getting the right mix of warm clothes is a bit of a challenge, but while you could end up fine (luck of the draw with weather) with just a thermawrap jacket and a Golite 20F quilt — I think it's pushing it a little too aggressively.Jun 15, 2010 at 10:55 am #1620272
I was on top of Mt. Guyot on the 3rd of April, and measured 36" of snowpack (marked my trekking pole and measured when I got home). The snow was most certainly NOT gone by the 2nd of april at all elevations. There was more than 3 miles of AT in that area with 1-3 feet of snowpack over the trail, I made several 2.5' postholes while walking it. It was exhausting even with a few pounds of daypack. I'd have hated tackling it with a full pack and no snowshoes. Snow that weekend in that area still remained on North facing slopes as low as 4200 ft, and was widespread anywhere over 5800.
Bottom line though, I agree with you…you need to be prepared for cold and snow in the Smokies if you're starting early from Springer.Jun 21, 2010 at 12:14 pm #1621967
I've been looking at the .75l Evernew pasta pot. 3.2oz with lid. There are a few options out there.Dec 6, 2011 at 10:22 pm #1809579
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