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  • #1610638
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    "I'd like to be known as "A man living his Ideals.""

    Too easy.

    In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live.

    #1610640
    Lynn Tramper
    Member

    @retropump

    Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna

    "one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

    Hmmm, like Henry David Thoreau??

    Moose. Indian.

    #1610647
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    Thoreau sure did have a lot to say about living a life that would've been luxurious (if not simply common)- to most people on Earth at that time.

    #1610651
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    Yama – ""I'd like to be known as "A man living his Ideals."

    Craig – "Too easy. In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

    Well, let's take this all the way. Believe that everything is illusory. Zero ideal mean zero disappointment. Buddhist nirvana, anyone?

    #1610653
    Lynn Tramper
    Member

    @retropump

    Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna

    " Zero ideal mean zero disappointment. Buddhist nirvana, anyone?"

    That is not to say that practicing Buddhists do not have ideals that they aim for in their pursuit of nirvana. Compassion, loving kindness, sympathetic joy, tolerance, patience. mindfulness, selflessness, and yes, also equanimity are just some of the many ideals of practicing Buddhists.

    At least Buddhists are clear about what they are running from…suffering!

    Edit: It just occurred to me you may have been referring to Zen Buddhism, in which case you are correct in that the "ideal" is no ideal.

    #1610667
    Diane “Piper” Soini
    BPL Member

    @sbhikes

    Locale: Santa Barbara

    Running away from concrete and sodium vapor lights. Running toward wildflowers and stars.

    #1610721
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

    Isn't an ideal, by definition, like infinity, in that it may be approached but never attained?

    #1611140
    Denis Hazlewood
    BPL Member

    @redleader

    Locale: Northern California

    I don't run. Not for planes, trains or automobiles. Walking, on the other hand is the way to go. A good sailboat and a fair wind notwithstanding.

    Supermax at speed
    Supermax at speed.

    #1611144
    cary bertoncini
    Spectator

    @cbert

    Locale: N. California

    there is still an ideal, basically the same as other Buddhism: enlightenment. In Zen/Ch'an it's just a different approach and methodology. "Turning the eye inward," a sort of recognition of the innate buddha nature from within, rather than through verbal/external practice and focus, as with most other approaches. It's not getting caught up, like Hamlet, in "words, words, words," not looking for a specific path or way. Koans–the famous "sound of one hand clapping" or "face you had before you were conceived," etc. are intended to aid the practitioner in recognizing the futility of thinking systematically or linguistically and perhaps gaining an objective view of their subjective mind, perhaps leading to a dissolution of the barrier between object and subject (which is a Taoist notion infused in this branch of Buddhism). It's, perhaps, like the empty spaces between the notes that Miles Davis called attention to. I'd like to think there is something of it in the spontaneous "ghee" laugh and smile of an infant.

    #1611535
    YAMABUSHI !
    BPL Member

    @thunderhorse

    precisely.

    #1611565
    Javan Dempsey
    Member

    @jdempsey

    Locale: The-Stateless-Society

    Beige? Is that like Kahayki?

    I'll ask Julien.

    #1613151
    James Patsalides
    BPL Member

    @jamespatsalides-com

    Locale: New England

    Notwithstanding those who love beige…

    Beige is the parent color for the following exciting color choices: "drab", "buff", "tan", "ecru", "khaki", and "sand".

    Beige is essentially the average color of the universe (aka "Cosmic Latte").

    Who could forget the fascinating and often controversial "Summary of Commentary on Current Economic Conditions", published by the Federal Reserve Board, and known as The Beige Book.

    In addition, 75% of the cubicle walls in America are beige in color, since beige wall decoration has been shown to reduce emotions in the workplace. Kind of like elevator music.

    Erm, oh yeah, the original IBM PC had a beige box.

    So, truth be told, I am running away from beige. :-)

    #1613153
    Juston Taul
    Member

    @junction

    Locale: Atlanta, GA

    High-fructose corn syrup

    #1613195
    Kathleen B
    Member

    @rosierabbit

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Uh oh. My hiking pants and windshirt are beige.

    #1614485
    Rakesh Malik
    Member

    @tamerlin

    Locale: Cascadia

    The worst day in the field is better than the best day in a cubicle.

    #1614559
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    "The worst day in the field is better than the best day in a cubicle."

    Yeah, until we get laid off and can't find a job!! Not criticizing your post at all, Rakesh, but just pointing out one all-too-common human trait — viewing grass as greener on the other side of the fence.

    We long for the green jungle and we're 'stuck' in our urban jungle. But ask any of the Chinese or Vietnamese worker if they want to walk 50 miles through the jungle hauling the pack they just finished sewing — and they'll think you're nuts!

    #1614579
    Rakesh Malik
    Member

    @tamerlin

    Locale: Cascadia

    "Yeah, until we get laid off and can't find a job!! Not criticizing your post at all, Rakesh, but just pointing out one all-too-common human trait — viewing grass as greener on the other side of the fence."

    Unless you make for yourself a job that requires being out in the field… like I'm doing :)

    This isn't a case of the grass is greener on the other side, it's a case of there isn't any grass at all on this side.

    #1614585
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    Now I've never worked in one, but I'd imagine there are no good days in cubicles.

    #1614619
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "Now I've never worked in one, but I'd imagine there are no good days in cubicles."

    Sure there are, like when the EMT's haul your #$@#^#$ boss out on a gurney after his coronary. ;))

    #1614623
    David Lutz
    Member

    @davidlutz

    Locale: Bay Area

    Dennis…..what lake is this?

    Sailing

    #1614664
    Denis Hazlewood
    BPL Member

    @redleader

    Locale: Northern California

    Millerton, behind Friant Dam on the San Joaquin River, out of Fresno. It was blowing pea gravel across the parking lot and I was afraid we'd break something or capsize. We were out for a photo shoot and wouldn't have launched if not for that. It was so rough the photo boat just motored in place while we beam reached back and forth.

    We raced that boat from 1974 to 1992.

    Supermax - Lake Oroville - 1977
    Supermax at the Commodor's Regatta, Lake Oroville, CA

    #1617798
    Jack Sharkbite
    Member

    @trailscum666

    Locale: pacific nw

    I go for bloody ADVENTURE, man!!! There's just too much falsity and, well, humans man!! Where are the great adventures that cowboys had? The adventures from hundreds of years before, where a traveler might encounter just a lightning storm and it could mean life or death! When your out there, you have to use your animal instincts and wits…im running from this screwed up reality im bombarded with almost everday from the moment I wake up till my head hits the pillow. Im running towards whatever might happen that will make me feel alive. Whatever ensures me that this world is real.

    #1618316
    Daniel Fosse
    Member

    @magillagorilla

    Locale: Southwest Ohio

    Denis,
    Where did you get that old picture of Chevy Chase in a sailboat?

    #1618386
    Denis Hazlewood
    BPL Member

    @redleader

    Locale: Northern California

    When I was 40 I had hair… And a waistline.

    (8-)

    #1628502
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    These Damn shoe people!!


    What spammer?
    :-)

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