Apr 7, 2010 at 11:58 am #1257424
I see them on people and read about how great they are, but don't get it. Are they waterproof? Breathable? As good/dry as a Patagonia Rainshadow or not as good/dry but lighter and acceptably good/dry?
thanks!Apr 7, 2010 at 12:07 pm #1595314
@scottbentzLocale: Southern California
Lightweight, 12 oz. for top and bottom, as breathable as most things out there, all for about $19.00. Not bad!
You need to be careful with them, they love to bust at the seam on the butt and they tear if sitting on granite, but they do the trick. I hike mainly in the Sierras so they are more than adequate for the type of storms that typically roll through.Apr 7, 2010 at 12:17 pm #1595321
Imagine a woven screen, with threads running perpendicular to each other. When these magic threads get wet they swell to the point that they close up all the gaps in between.
You can see this swelling when you put a few drops of water in just one spot.
So when dry it is very breathable, and wet, it is for all intents and purposes, very water resistant.
In the "transition phase" it's moving across the spectrum. In a hiking or cycling situation where you are usually "cooking off" water vapor the transition is less of an issue than one might imagine. By the time the sun is out, and you're ready to take it off, you are dry.
Not a perfect piece of science like eVent, but better than most PU and 2nd generation Gortex – IMHO, and relatively inexpensive.
With DriDucks the ploymer layer is on a spunbonded fiber scrim that is not terribly durable. In many cycling jackets it is on a much more durable substrate.Apr 7, 2010 at 1:37 pm #1595350
Driducks are the lightest, darn inexpensive and also very breathable — as Greg stated above. What's not to like?
1. dorky looking, hood has no brim at all.
2. not good with abrasion — not an issue at all with normal wear but definitely not for bushwhacking. My Driducks jacket can last a long time, but not the pants.Apr 7, 2010 at 3:18 pm #1595389
I purchased a set just to see them. Having guessed" the size they were too big for me so gave them to a friend. He also purchased a set shortly after. Destroyed both the first or second time out.
Most of our trails are not wide enough to avoid branches and often have to climb over logs, they are not suitable for this.
I did try them out under pretty heavy rain, around my place, and yes they are very breathable and waterproof enough at least for a few hours. I don't know about all day.
FrancoApr 7, 2010 at 5:06 pm #1595421
They don't last. I had a set last 2 hours. They are not recyclable. The sizing is funky. I don't get it either. Oh yeah, no pocket in the jackets either.Apr 7, 2010 at 5:12 pm #1595424
"They don't last. I had a set last 2 hours. They are not recyclable. The sizing is funky. I don't get it either."
I've had mine for a few years now (jacket, not the pants). Sizing is indeed funky — it's about two sizes bigger than convention.Apr 7, 2010 at 5:26 pm #1595430
@mikeclellandLocale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
I've used mine a LOT and they are fine (except the pants).
I am careful when I hike in them. If they tear, simple MASKING TAPE works PERFECTLY! Easy to repair!
They are the MOST breathable, perfectly waterproof, cheap, dorky, and there is nothing lighter!
I turned the pants into a skirt using scissors and contact cement, and this is a MUCH better!Apr 7, 2010 at 5:35 pm #1595433
Anything similar to Driducks worth trying? Being on the short end of the spectrum (5'5", 150 lbs) I can't really order two sizes down to get a good fit.Apr 7, 2010 at 5:48 pm #1595442
Methinks a size M Integral Design eVent rain jacket will fit you well — they are cut quite a bit shorter than most. Yeah, it's also quite a bit more expensive but you do get a superior jacket in every way! And it should last a lot longer too. And no dork factor…Apr 7, 2010 at 6:37 pm #1595458
@davidlutzLocale: Bay Area
Has anyone seen these in stores so I can go have a look in person?
I can't even find the manufacturer's website, just tons of online retailers.Apr 7, 2010 at 7:21 pm #1595476
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FrancoApr 7, 2010 at 9:03 pm #1595506
I sent you a PMApr 7, 2010 at 11:25 pm #1595553
…I have a montbell peak jacket which I like. Not quite as nice as eVent, but nice. It comes in at like 10 oz. though. I was looking for a light pant/jacket combo that I could get down to 10 oz. for both, but I may just use my jacket and call it good.Apr 7, 2010 at 11:38 pm #1595556
If I were you, I would just use the jacket and call it good. With a 10oz. weight ceiling, that means you're looking at a max. weight allowance of only 4-5oz. for your pants. Anything that light will be pretty darn fragile! My experience with the relatively fragile Driducks is that I can keep the jacket in good shape for years by being careful — but the pants last maybe one hike. Even if you make sure never to sit down, the bottom part of the pant legs will wear out quickly just from rocks and stuff kicked up by your footsteps.Apr 7, 2010 at 11:44 pm #1595559
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
These are certainly not commercial products, but I sewed my own hooded rain jacket (4 ounces) and my own rain chaps (2.5 ounces).
–B.G.–Apr 8, 2010 at 4:22 am #1595605
@kgottshalkLocale: Colorado, USA
If they are too long, just take some scissors and cut them shorter, we are talking about a <$10 pair of pants. I've had a pair of DriDucks for two years (going on third). I don't use them very often, but they still work fine. I brush branches all of the time with no rips.Jul 5, 2010 at 6:56 pm #1626464
@oystersLocale: South Australia
Just wondering how driducks hold up to long term usage underneath a pack? I'm guessing those areas wear out faster?
Also, which particular driducks models do people use? Looking at the froggtoggs website there are a few options…:
AdamJul 5, 2010 at 7:08 pm #1626467
Walking out on a fairly well and wide maintained trail in May put an untimely (first time worn) end to my DD pants. The Tyvek pants I have used are more durable that Dri-Ducks. Slightest snag on what seemed to be the most flexible branch went completely through.
The jacket worn on the same hike made from Rainshield endured the the trail with no apparent damage. Rainshield is more expensive running approximately $50.00(corrected) for a complete suit vs. $15.00 for a suit of DD.Jul 5, 2010 at 7:11 pm #1626469
I use the trail pac from your links. Jacket is working well but it is definitely not for bushwhacking.
I am 6 ft 165 and the small fits me perfectly including the pants.Jul 6, 2010 at 5:09 pm #1626732
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
As I've said ad infinitum here, if you can't afford an eVent parka like REI & others sell for well over $200. then look at Cabela's Rainy River PacLite GTX parkas. $99. and they come in tall sizes too, which I prefer for longer sleeves & beter butt coverage.Jul 6, 2010 at 5:26 pm #1626744
@Eric: Cabela's has the PacLite GTX Tall Size on sale for $79.88. But I can't find the weight of the jacket. Do you happen to know what it weighs?Jul 6, 2010 at 6:28 pm #1626759
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
My PacLite Large, Tall weighs 15 oz. Notta too bad for a parka with so many neat features.Jul 6, 2010 at 9:00 pm #1626798
@owareLocale: Steptoe Butte
"With DriDucks the ploymer layer is on a spunbonded fiber scrim that is not terribly durable. In many cycling jackets it is on a much more durable substrate."
The fabric looks to be point bonded not spun bonded like
To prevent the crotch from blowing out, you need to make sure
they are pulled up all the way when worn. Suspenders
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