Piute Pass to Bishop Pass in July

[Scott Smith]

I'd like to make the loop the week of July 4th..

With luck, the snow / pass piece won't be an issue..

However, I am concerned about crossing Evolution creek that early in the season .

Any thoughts / comments ??

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rick Dreher]

Hi Scott,

There's a lot of winter to yet unfold. You might keep your eyes on the monthly DWR snow surveys and make your decision on the viability of early July based on the last one, which will be on or around May 1. You might also monitor the PCT list, since northbounders will be obsessing on earliest departure dates and discussing high Sierra snow data and field reports with considerable zeal.

http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l

Happy planning!

Rick

[Bob Gross]

Approximately where did you expect to cross Evolution Creek?

I've never gone that direction before. I went south to north on foot in August, and south to north on skis in April. It's fabulous scenery in any month.

–B.G.–

[Jim W.]

I went from South Lake to South Fork of Big Pine Creek July 4 weekend of 1983. The route was Bishop, Potluck, Cirque, and South Fork passes. Except for the first couple and last couple of miles I didn't set foot on anything other than snow or rock. I walked right across the Palisade lakes.

Conditions in July are highly variable- It can look like winter one year and summer the next. Check out the snow reports after April 1 to see the total snowpack, then again about June 1 to see melt rates.

Snow sensor data is here:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/PLOT_SWC

Bishop Pass snow sensor:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryDaily?s=BSH
Blackcap Basin snow sensor:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryDaily?s=BCB

[Ken Helwig]

With this snowfall that is happening this year. July 4th weekend might be kind of tough, unless you are skiing

[Brandon Sanchez]

Bring trekking poles and Id think youd be fine keeping three points of contact. I know what you mean though, Its very swift with a nice waterfall very close by just to make it more exciting. I saw people cross streams in Crocs and was very envious too.

[Jim W.]

I think you can cross further upstream than where the JMT crosses. It seems to spread out rather wide with a sandy bottom.

[Brandon Sanchez]

I took that route when I hiked the JMT as well. My only concern with mentioning that as an alternative is that if there is more snow this year than last it could be very deep. I was up to my waist where I crossed although it was very slow moving water. This was mid July last year. Pick your poison I guess.

[Casey Bowden]

Scott,

At the standard Evolution Creek crossing, when heading south, there is sign that says that if the water is too high, you should cross further upstream at the meadow. Note that I did the same hike, but in August last year. Check it out at:

http://www.caseyandemily.com/Backpack/2009/08_NLaketoSLake/NorthLaketoSouthLake.htm

[Hiking Malto]

Was up in that neck of the woods last 4th of July. Crossed evolution creek a bit upstream from crossing without any problems. This year, who knows, the area just got almost 4' of snow since I was snowshoeing over Kearsarge two weeks ago. At this rate there could be a snow bridge across evolution creek. Another option would be to go cross country from evolution lake up to Darwin Bench, across Alpine Col into Humphry's Basin and to Piute Pass. This would give you a combo trail and x-country. The snow actually could make a crossing of Alpine Col easier than last year. Just a thought.

[Scott Smith]

As always, very much appreciate the commentary !

I pretty much knew that I wouldn't have a firm answer until the Spring, at the earliest, however, I thought I'd ask thinking that maybe someone had done the same trip @ the same period of time..

Accordingly, again, I did get some good commentary!

So… thanks guys !!

[Dave T]

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[Scott Smith]

Yep.. agree !!

Again, I'm not so much concerned about the snow .. It's that Damn creek that's got me hesitating ..

[Bob Gross]

I've done three similar loop trips, going clockwise over Bishop Pass or else Echo Col, going through upper Evolution, and then turning east up over Darwin Bench and up and over Lamarck Col. That takes you down to North Lake.

April 1 is the best ski season for it, and July 20 is the best backpacking season for it.
–B.G.–

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