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Jan 6, 2010 at 3:37 pm #1253853

Anonymous
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Hi all! I am wondering if there are any differences between the two Momentum fabrics available through Thru-Hiker? One is Momentum mini ripstop, the other is Momentum taffeta.

I used the Momentum mini ripstop when constructing my down quilt, as it came in the Thru-Hiker down quilt kit… but now I am going to be making an UL bivy, and am wondering which of these Momentum fabrics is appropriate for a bivy top. Are they the same? Does it even matter?

Thank you for your time and information!
-Alexander

Jan 6, 2010 at 4:00 pm #1560234

Jim W.
BPL Member

@jimqpublic
Locale: So-Cal

There have been some posts on the Thru-Hiker forum about the two. The taffeta is the same fabric without the thicker fibers in the ripstop grid. The taffeta is softer but slightly less tear resistant.

Jan 6, 2010 at 4:17 pm #1560240

Anonymous
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Thanks Jim! Didn't think to search Thru-Hiker's forum…

Went for the rip, since it is essentially being used as a shell for a quilt or a bag.

Jan 6, 2010 at 9:22 pm #1560335

Tim Marshall
BPL Member

@marshlaw303
Locale: Minnesota

the only reason to choose the taf is that it is slightly (and i mean ever so slightly)smoother against the skin. For a bivy top i'd use the rip 100% of the time.

-Tim

Jan 6, 2010 at 9:58 pm #1560347

Joe Clement
BPL Member

@skinewmexico
Locale: Southwest

So is Momentum the brand name at all of the suppliers?

Jan 7, 2010 at 8:05 am #1560425

Anonymous
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Thanks Tim!

Jan 7, 2010 at 9:04 am #1560443

Josh Leavitt
BPL Member

@joshleavitt
Locale: Ruta Locura

"So is Momentum the brand name at all of the suppliers?"

No

Jan 7, 2010 at 9:21 am #1560451

Tim Marshall
BPL Member

@marshlaw303
Locale: Minnesota

Josh, where else can one get their hands on this fabric? (other than thru-hiker)

-Tim

Jan 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm #1560953

Rob Line
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@dragonstar

IIRC thru-hiker is the only place you can get it. I think it was a custom order.

Jan 9, 2010 at 5:18 am #1561041

Matt Mahaney
BPL Member

@matt_mahaney
Locale: In the District

Tim,
Here's a link to some info from Ron at MLD about M90.

Jan 12, 2010 at 3:14 pm #1562103

Josh Leavitt
BPL Member

@joshleavitt
Locale: Ruta Locura

Titanium Goat will sell you cut yardage of taffeta "momentum" in black. They will also sell you cut yardage of ripstop "momentum" in balck, when they have it to spare. Just send DJ an email, [email protected]

Jan 13, 2010 at 5:48 am #1562257

Josh Leavitt
BPL Member

@joshleavitt
Locale: Ruta Locura

Correction: Titanium Goat will sell you "intrepid" its a 20 denier fabric, calandered one side, with a DWR coting, you can get in taffeta or ripstop, TiGoat has it in black. Its the same thing thru hiker calls "#$%@#@$(R)" My apologies, we'll trade mark some other made up name for it.

Pricing is as follows:
1yd-25yds……… $9.00/yd
26yds-50yds…… $8.50/yd
51yds-100yds…. $8.00/yd
over 100yds……. $7.50/yd

Some people are upset, I've recieved emails, that I've offered this fabric for sale here, to the DIY crowd. As I said above, I'm sorry for trying to help people.

Jan 13, 2010 at 7:15 am #1562272

Greg Mihalik
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@greg23
Locale: Colorado

No good deed goes unpunished.

Jan 13, 2010 at 7:47 am #1562279

Josh Leavitt
BPL Member

@joshleavitt
Locale: Ruta Locura

"No good deed goes unpunished"

I should know this by now.

Jan 13, 2010 at 8:36 am #1562290

Jim W.
BPL Member

@jimqpublic
Locale: So-Cal

Is this fabric good for a wind shirt or does the calendaring significantly reduce the breathability?

Thanks

Jan 13, 2010 at 8:48 am #1562294

Josh Leavitt
BPL Member

@joshleavitt
Locale: Ruta Locura

I see that Ron has edited the post, in the link matt posted, WOW!

Making up trade names for products that are known by other names and sold by other people, does not make them better or worth more money. For example I can unequivocally say that the Dyneema that Thru-hiker sells and MLD uses are not exclusive to them, same goes for other fabrics, the difference is that Thru-Hiker and MLD call it something different than what everyone else calls it, and trade mark the made up name they use. Doesn't make it any better, or worth more money.

Bottom line, I will not be lectured about business ethics, by those that have none.

Jan 14, 2010 at 4:35 pm #1562849

Javan Dempsey
Member

@jdempsey
Locale: The-Stateless-Society

Props Josh!

I wish we could divest ourselves of all the corporate BS, at least on this particular forum.

People forget where they came from real quick once they're not there anymore though. Always has been, always will be.

Jan 14, 2010 at 5:38 pm #1562868

Nia Schmald
BPL Member

@nschmald

Thank you Josh for making this available. Another fine resource for the MYOGers.

Jan 15, 2010 at 9:42 am #1563077

Anonymous
Inactive

I think I can answer my original question now that I have both fabrics in hand…

I am just about done with my bivy (I will post pics this afternoon), but while cutting the foot box, I grabbed a piece of the Momentum left over from the summer quilt I had just made and I noticed that it seemed a tad lighter… then I realized that my quilt had been made from the taffeta, not the rip. The Taffeta feels a bit lighter and seems to breathe a little better too. Anyhwho, thought someone might want to know…
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