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  • #1239913
    Diplomatic Mike
    Member

    @mikefaedundee

    Locale: Under a bush in Scotland

    A friend of mine will be trekking around 400 miles solo across Iceland.
    She is looking for advice on a suitable tent. A good percentage of the terrain will be lava field, so probably a free-standing shelter would be best. Good weather protection is needed too. Tarps aren't her thing. ;)
    Anyone on here trekked in Iceland and have any suggestions?
    Cheers. :)

    #1533085
    Dewey Riesterer
    Member

    @kutenay

    I would use a Hilleberg Soulo without question and I would also "doublepole" it. I would take sand anchors and pile loose lava on them to make sure I was not "blown away". I would take extra cord and a patching kit plus a "footprint".

    This is a trek I would LOVE to go on, being of partial Norwegian Viking heritage and very "Nordic" in temperament and cultural interests.

    #1533097
    Drowned Lemming
    BPL Member

    @lemming

    I've used both a Nammatj GT and an Akto without any problems, so a fully freestanding tent isn't necessary.
    Even in the interior it's usually possible to find somewhere to get pegs in.

    However, a Soulo would give added assurance – guyed out to big rocks! (The camp site at Landmannalaugar has lots of neat stone piles just for this).

    #1533124
    Zack Karas
    BPL Member

    @iwillchopyouhotmail-com

    Locale: Lake Tahoe

    I don't know if she is going to loosely follow Jonathon Ley's route (http://www.phlumf.com/travels/iceland/index.shtml), but that is what my wife and I did this last June/July. If she is, she can read my wife's trail journal for some good info (www.trailjournals.com/teamnasty09). Also, I have lots of map and general information that took forever to accumulate, so I could also help her out there if she is having problems.

    That said, I agree that a freestanding tent is more or less mandatory. When it is raining hard for the entire day (or days), the loose saturated soil will not necessarily hold stakes well, even with giant rocks stacked on them. She will also probably want a vestibule to keep super wet/sandy/muddy items out of the tent, as well as add a place to cook. Justin Lichter (www.justinlichter.com), aka Trauma, used a Big Agnes Fly Creek UL1 and said it worked well. Jonathon Ley used a non-freestanding tent and told me that it was just barely acceptable, but he also had pretty good weather for his hike. I used the Big Agnes Copper Spur UL2 and have pretty big reservations about that tent design (you can search for some threads I started about it here on BPL), but it worked for us and withstood the monster Icelandic winds (like 40mph sustained, 75 mph gusts).

    I would stress to your friend: freestanding, light as possible, vestibule, wind worthy. Let me know if I can be of further help, especially if she is following Ley's route.

    edit: to correct Jonathon Ley's website url.

    #1533129
    Diplomatic Mike
    Member

    @mikefaedundee

    Locale: Under a bush in Scotland

    Thanks for the replies folks. Some great info.
    She is actually out in the hills at the moment. I'll bring this thread to her attention when she gets back in a couple of days.

    #1533151
    Fred eric
    BPL Member

    @fre49

    Locale: France, vallée de la Loire

    i agree with that

    my wife and i did 2 hikes in Iceland and we used an MSR twin sisters ( that was before we bought the kifaru para tipi )

    I really loved having a no floor shelter, for sleeping we had each a 80ish cm x 2m10 silnylon sheet to put under our sleeping pad, and we were using the same silnylon piece to protect our backpack from the rain during the day.

    #1593107
    Bart Kempny
    BPL Member

    @plasmation

    Curious to know what tent you ended up with? I plan a Ley-like hike myself this June and after months of research I still did not decide on the tent. Considering Hilleberg Nallo 2 or MSR Hubba Hubba HP, but the first being non free standing and the former might have wind problems..

    #1593109
    Hendrik Morkel
    BPL Member

    @skullmonkey

    Locale: Finland

    While the Soulo is a great tent, its way too heavy. The Nallo 2 falls also in the heavy but good category, so for a UL forum strange suggestions imo.

    Have a look at the Scarp 1, Bartosz, its a great tent which has the possibility for freestanding. I also have used the HUBBA HP (thus the solo) and it is sort of freestanding, able to be pegged with just two pegs. Great wind and rain shedding.

    Speaking of pegging, on lava sand you might as well forget about it and just take longer guylines with you, which you can wrap around stones for pegging out. Saves you some weight and is easier.

    #1593116
    Bart Kempny
    BPL Member

    @plasmation

    Although my previous post may sound as if I was going solo, but actually there will be 2 of us

    #1593149
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    "While the Soulo is a great tent, its way too heavy. The Nallo 2 falls also in the heavy but good category, so for a UL forum strange suggestions imo. "

    I encourage you to do a search and see how many UL, and BPL staff included, have Hilleberg tents. For 4 season harsh conditions there really is no better choice.

    #1593166
    Richard Lyon
    BPL Member

    @richardglyon

    Locale: Bridger Mountains

    I agree with David. I've never been to Iceland, but if it's windy enough to require double poling I'd rather be safe than sorry, even if it meant and extra few ounces. I'd take my Unna over my Scarp. Safety first.

    #1593172
    Steven McAllister
    BPL Member

    @brooklynkayak

    Locale: Arizona, US

    Iceland is too windy to consider not staking your shelter. So a freestanding tent does not give any advantage. The winds can carry away a tent full of gear if not attached to the ground.

    I've never hiked there, but I do know that you are only allowed to hike on designated trails and camp sites and I'll bet they are packed ground.
    The ground is too fragile otherwise.

    The Hillebergs just seem too heavy to me.
    One of the lighter, yet windproof tents I've ever used is the Montbell Crescent series.

    I personally would use a Spinnshelter myself, as it is also good in extreme wind. But it doesn't have a floor which was one of her requirements. Add an SMD Meteor bivy and the combination is just over a pound. The Meteor provides the floor, bug protection and adds warmth.

    #1593176
    David Ure
    Member

    @familyguy

    Ever think about snow and your SpinShelter?

    #1593185
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    Which season? Summer?

    #1593191
    Chris Townsend
    BPL Member

    @christownsend

    Locale: Cairngorms National Park

    TarpTent Scarp 1 with crossover poles or a pyramid tent with inner. A mixture of thin titanium pins and wide angle pegs. That should cope with most conditions. My one trip to Iceland, many years ago, I used a North Face Westwind tunnel tent, which performed well in the strong winds and heavy rain. Any shelter needs to resist very strong winds and have space for cooking and storing gear under cover.

    #1593273
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Iceland was the code name for the Scarp…
    (every shelter is given a temporary name till something better comes up)

    Chris
    Long Y stakes ?
    Franco

    #1593306
    Chris Townsend
    BPL Member

    @christownsend

    Locale: Cairngorms National Park

    Well, there's a coincidence!

    Yes, long Y stakes for the soft gravel.

    #1595119
    Bart Kempny
    BPL Member

    @plasmation

    Steven, I got this reply from ICE-SAR (search and rescue guys):

    You are allowed to camp almost everywhere. The main rule is that if there is no sign which tells you „NO CAMPING“ you are allowed to camp. But note that there are some places during the main seoson in the highland where to have to pay.

    #1595139
    Hendrik Morkel
    BPL Member

    @skullmonkey

    Locale: Finland

    Iceland has the so-called Everyman's Right, or freedom to roam, which allows you to camp and walk pretty much wherever you want. You don't need to stick to trails or the like. Google Everyman's Right + Iceland and see the detailed rules that apply.

    David, I am aware that a lot of folks here have Hilleberg shelters. That doesn't make them lighter, though.

    #1596141
    Steven McAllister
    BPL Member

    @brooklynkayak

    Locale: Arizona, US

    David regarding:
    "Ever think about snow and your SpinShelter?"

    I was assuming a summer trip, but because of the steep roof on the Spinnshelter, I'd guess it would do alright in snow. Pyramids typically do pretty good in the snow. I know the "Hut 1", which is almost identical design, is reported to be very good in snow.

    As far as the right to walk anywhere you want in Iceland, I was told that they would like people to stick to established trails and campsites. The ground is very fragile and besides it is very mushy so you would want to stick to packed or rocky ground anyway.

    #1597017
    Bart Kempny
    BPL Member

    @plasmation

    Hello all, I need some help with choosing the tent for this Iceland trip. So guys if you could give me feedback on some of my issues.

    Some info:

    – 2 tall person tent (I am 6.3" (192cm), my brother is 6.2")

    – ~1kg I do not believe I can get something this light for my reqs, ~2kg would be perfect (i could carry this solo in the future), ~3kg would be max (but way to much for solo)

    – <500-600$

    – I am from Poland and unfortunately do not have the chance to go to a store and have a look at many tents available only in the US, so I am prepared for buying a tent based on reviews/help only..

    – There are some tents (LunarDuo, ExpedVelaII, DoubleRainbow) that may be comfy for tall people (I searched the forums for 'tent for tall') but may not stand the high winds on Iceland

    Some choices:

    – MSR Hubba Hubba HP: how will this work for 2 6.2"+ people? I like the fact that it is freestanding. Revies on wind stability are mixed, but generally OK.

    – Hilleberg Nallo 2: same q as above. Yes I know, Hillebergs are tough, the weight is fine. Dont like the fact that it is not freestanding (if this is not an issue let me know why not, I am still more on the amateur side and would appreciate constructive comments rather than trashing me for not 'liking' non-freestanding tents;)).

    #1597020
    Ben Gregory
    Member

    @bengregory

    The tarptent scarp 2 is lighter than the nallo, and freestanding if you buy the extra poles.

    #1597039
    Andy F
    Spectator

    @andyf

    Locale: Midwest/Midatlantic

    I vote Scarp 2 also. I'm getting one.

    You should still stake down a freestanding tent….

    Freestanding tent + high wind = bye bye expensive freestanding tent :)

    #1747356
    alastair humphreys
    BPL Member

    @alastairhumphreys

    Locale: UK

    get a freestanding tent for sure – the highlands are really rocky.

    This vid might give you an idea – http://vimeo.com/16580852

    #1747379
    Fred eric
    BPL Member

    @fre49

    Locale: France, vallée de la Loire

    My wife and i used an MSR twin sisters ( 824g with added linelocs for easier pitch and plastic clips allowing to roll the lower flaps for more ventilation )for all our hikes in Iceland.
    In my opinion its the stakes that you need to change according to where you go not the shelter.

    In Hornstrandir for example, you have to camp next to the sea unsheltered from the wind and with sometime loose soil, some eastons stakes or MSR groundhogs for example works great.

    msr hornstrandir

    In hard rocky ground some titanium nails works well, the 8g ones can be used with extra care ( the flattened section at the hole weaken them a lot ) the 14g vargo were great for that
    There is really no need to burden you with a heavy shelter just get the stakes that goes with the soil you will encounter.

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