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Aug 17, 2009 at 8:35 pm #1238644
Why is their stuff so freakin expensive?
Aug 17, 2009 at 8:57 pm #1521525Custom.
Quality.
Light.
Functional.Did you notice the upgrade price for eiderdown?
Just an additional $125 per ounce of fill.Aug 17, 2009 at 9:08 pm #1521529Handmade of quality materials. Worth every penny.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:09 pm #1521530Yeah…I thought that was a little ridiculous. What…is that brand the luxury brand of UL?
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:15 pm #1521531Yes- luxury. Beautiful, functional luxury. Ah, Nunatak.
Wish I could afford you.
dj
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:07 pm #1521536I have never slept so good since I received my custom Alpinist— But I did have to take out a 2nd mortgage just to pay for it.
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:59 pm #1521537I guess that's very fitting Jay, since it's part of your 'home away from home'.
Aug 18, 2009 at 12:38 pm #152163410oz for a fully baffled down jacket with hood AND pocket, using the highest quality materials and custom craftmanship…where else can you find such a wonderful creation at any price?? I got a Skaha hoody with custom extra length and fill, so it's tailer-made to fit ME.
Aug 18, 2009 at 12:48 pm #1521636Why is it so expensive? Tom's products are not made overseas, for one. I don't believe they're made in large production facilities either. I own an AT quilt, the Back Country Blanket, and just ordered a Skaha with hood and pockets and another AT quilt overfilled. It's exactly what I want with quality that I appreciate. And Tom answers his email!
Aug 18, 2009 at 1:20 pm #1521645How much other stuff have you seen so freakin light? Or custom made in the US? Like others have pointed out… a baffled down jacket, with hood and pocket, in the neighborhood of 10 ounces? Holy Wah! Most companies jackets are twice that weight and not nearly as warm. Nunatak's a great niche company.
Aug 18, 2009 at 2:13 pm #1521655I have a Specialist with a 1 oz overfill that comes in at 17 oz and keeps me warm and comfortable below freezing. The price is high, but the quality is high. Each quilt is lovingly hand stitched and perfectly made. Why own three manufactured sleeping bags when you can own one all-purpose quilt at about the same price?
Stargazer
Aug 18, 2009 at 6:12 pm #1521694Are their temp ratings true or off by 5-10 degrees?
Aug 18, 2009 at 6:24 pm #1521697I just ordered a tricked out Arc Alpinist and can't wait for it.
I Dave and I his mukluks in Epic and have been using them every winter for the past five years. They go on my feet as soon as I am set-up for the night. They have never wet out and are still in very good shape. I did make a set of ensolite insoles for them to stiffen the bottom up a bit.
Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 am #1521797Donna, based on my experience with two Nunatak bags (Back Country Blanket and Ghost) I'd say its ratings are conservative. I sleep cold and usually factor in a 15 F degree cushion, but the Ghost (rated 32 F) has kept me warm right down to freezing.
Aug 19, 2009 at 11:14 am #1521846It does hurt your pocket, but if you want the lightest possible quilt, then you're going to have to pay the price. Alternatively, you can look at JRB quilts which are a little cheaper.
I bought a few bags before ending up with my Nunatak quilt and I'm also happy with it.
Don't forget, they have great resale value too…
Aug 19, 2009 at 11:52 am #1521855Thanks, Richard. I'm looking for a winter bag about 0 to 5 degrees. I like quilts and usually use my bag as a quilt. I'm looking at WM but Nunatak might be what I really want, or even JRB.
Aug 20, 2009 at 2:45 pm #1522116Donna, As you doubtless know Nunatak welcomes customizing. Talk to him about exactly what you want and I'll bet he can get you down to zero.
Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 pm #1522145Good idea. I really want this bag/quilt to last out my hiking days for as long as possible and while zero may be overkill here in the east, I am so tired of just being on the edge of weather that suddenly turns colder than expected. My 20F bag is pretty old and needs replacing. I'm sure it isn't a true 20F bag anyway.
Last winter I tried using an old down hood from a jacket to sleep in and loved it. I could turn without being held hostage in a bag hood or my hat or balaclava shifting all over the place. So the idea of a quilt with my hood would work nicely.
Aug 20, 2009 at 6:08 pm #1522156As a cold sleeper, my 32 degree Nunatak Specialist keeps me warm. Slept good in it in a MB bivy (no tarp) on a 19 degree night, wearing microfleece pants, shirt, and hood, MB UL down vest, JRB down sleeves and hood, and 2 pair socks. I am now a believer. I bought it used from someone who needed a longer model.
When held vertically by the side seam and shaken, the down does not shift enough to leave a thin spot. Try that with any bag from overseas.
Have you ever heard any criticism of Nunatak other than the cost? Yes, maybe some bag owner is embarassed to speak up, but if Nunatak products weren't so good, others would be quick to holler about the quality for the price.
Those quilts keep you just as warm as WM products with equal rated temps, but they weigh less. The key there is all the down is over you instead of some of it under you. Buy a used WM bag and have Tim Marshall sew and cut it into a quilt–>Nunatak clone.
Aug 20, 2009 at 6:44 pm #1522162I for one don't have any problem with the cost considering what you get from Nunatak. If you are interested in a Nunatak quilt you can email Tom (the owner) and get personal attention. I customized the heck out of mine and it took many emails and a phone conversation to get it to be exactly what I wanted. There were no fees added for the size customization…NONE. I did change materials and add down which added cost, but I can't believe he can add an inch in length, customize the taper, add to the footbox size and width without charging the heck out of you. And for all the consultations…he charged NOTHING. If I were him I would have strangled me.
My only complaint is really the time…I just wish I didn't have to wait so long to get one made. But beyond that it was a great gear buying experience.
Jamie
Aug 20, 2009 at 10:56 pm #1522216.
Sep 30, 2009 at 6:11 am #1531702Donna…
I have a custom quilt being made at this time which may be of interest to you. It's in the Arc Alpinist/Specialist size, but with 3" baffles, differential cut, and slightly overfilled for a temperature rating of around 5F.
I found that the Alpinist was the perfect size for me (I have a Specialist), width wise, and didn't want to go to the even wider Expedition. I, again, had the length made for me at 6'1". Since I'll often be using it in my Warbonnet hammock, I'm having it made with clip detachable straps.
As many have previously stated, the attraction of Nunatak, is not only the quality, but also the ability to totally customize fabric, features, baffle height, and size.
Sep 30, 2009 at 3:37 pm #1531901John,
That's great! I did place my order the end of August, so my baby is being created. Not unlike yours, more of a cross between the Alpinist and Exped. I made it a bit wider than the Alpinist because I wasn't sure the fit. I can always have him cut it back later. I did get the removable straps. Also the baffles changed in order to add 2 oz of fill. ( or something like that). I want it to zero degrees. Anyway, I can't wait to get it. If it works well, I'll sell my Montbell Spiral #3 ( too big for me) and get the Specialist.I plan on hacking away on my old TNF 20 degree down bag and see what I can do to it to make it useable. Might end up being a vest, if not a quilt.
Sep 30, 2009 at 7:03 pm #1531980What pads do You all recommend for Nunatak quilt/bags. I recently had a real problem using my arc alpinist with the new neo air The neo was just too stiff/wide to fit comfortably inside the "bag" ; especially at the lower end.
Plus that sticky surface on the neo. I'm a side sleeper and I roll around a lot. It was a real hassle.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Sep 30, 2009 at 7:16 pm #1531984Now I'm wondering if I am doing something wrong. I have a custom ghost and use it with a GG thinlight 3/8" cut short, but I do not place it inside. I've used Golite Ultra 20, Nunatak Ghost, and JRB Stealth. I always place the pad under the bag and wrap the bag under me. I am a back, side, and stomach sleeper and this has worked fine for me.
I know most websites show quilts being used with the pad inside. Is this better is some way…i.e. does it retain more heat?
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