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Aug 11, 2009 at 11:47 am #1238506
Hey all,
I didn't feel right hijacking another's thread on the same topic so started my own. Please pick apart my gear list; always looking for ideas to lighten the load. thank, Stevegear
McHale Sarc-chasm Backpack, roll top mode
Western Mountaineering Apache S-Dry loft Sleeping bag
Thermarest Neo-Air Large
3 Silnylon stuff sacks
Mountain Laurel Design SpinnPro Poncho/tarp
6 Ti Stakes / guy lines
Six Moon Designs Meteor Bivy
2 REI UL carbon trekking poles
Swiss Army Knife Classic – just enough knife
1-2 liter platypus
60 Katadyn Micropur tablets
Princeton-tec Scout Headlamp, no strap
1 Bearikade weekender
Arcade token (for opening bearikade)
1L Ti Pot
Ti Spoon w/long handle
Ti Mug
Alcohol Stove – caldera cone
Sparker
Fuel, denatured alcohol ½ liter in a 1L Playtpus with nozzle cap; buy ~1/2 liter at MTR
1.5oz cup size measuring cupclothes to wear
Patagonia baggies shorts
Patagonia silkweight longsleeve t-shirt
1 pair Injinji toe socks
Asics Gel Trabuco Trail Runners
Orthotics
Tilley Hat
MTR claim check
Scrap of paper with phone #
A bit of cash
Credit card
Medical insurance card
Drivers license
2 Contact lenses
1 pair Native Eye Sunglasses
Suunto Compass/Altimeter watch
Bandanna
½ oz eye drops
Tin of lip balmclothes to pack
Patagonia UL Windbreaker
Long pants
1 pair Injinji toe socks
REI Gossamer Vest
100 wt fleece gloves
100 wt fleece beanie
Patagonia silkweight short sleeve t-shirt
Patagonia silkweight thermal bottomfirst aid
1 roll Leukotape
5 band-aids w/antibiotic ointment
Meds (Benadryl, Sudafed, Imodium, Advil, Dramamine)
2 sheets 2nd skin
2 compeed patches
1 large safety pinemergency/repair:
40 gallon Trash bag
Small roll duct tape
Needle & thread
Whistle
Sparker
6 pieces fire startercleanup kit (resupply consumables as needed at MTR)
½oz Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap (rethink this, do I need at all?)
Fingertip Toothbrush
SS Wire Toothpick
Mini Pack Towel
Spare contact lens
1oz Renu cleansing solution
Toilet paper, 40 sheets
1 gallon ziploc (for used TP)
Poop stake
1oz Hand gel
½oz Ultrathon
1oz Sunblockmiscellaneous
Canon S70 Digital Camera, 2 batteries
Harrison JMT Map Pack
Car key
Small notepad, pencilAug 11, 2009 at 12:31 pm #1520103hey Steven,
looks similar to my list I am starting with next this week. Only two questions…1) Are you carrying a rain jacket (maybe I just missed it) or are you just going to do a windshirt with fleece under?
2) Are you bringing an entire roll of Leukatape? I am just bringing a foot or two.Aug 11, 2009 at 12:51 pm #1520106What are you wrapping the leukotape on? And how does a redo affect the adhesive?
For rain I am just using the poncho. If I need something waterproof once in camp I can fashion the garbage sack into a makeshift poncho. I dropped the rain jacket a couple years ago along with a tent when I remembered how as a Boy Scout I used to get along quite well without both.
Aug 11, 2009 at 12:55 pm #1520107ah ha, skipped right over the poncho. That in combo with your windhsirt will work well.
I normally re-wrap my tape around a larger sized paperclip but for this specific trip I wrapped 2 feet around a super small container of Gold Bond (travel size) I will be carrying.
Aug 11, 2009 at 1:54 pm #1520126Jonathan, how does rewrapping affect the tape adhesive. I've not used leukotape before and while definitely not needing a full roll am concerned that it won't adhere when pulled a 2nd time.
Aug 11, 2009 at 1:58 pm #1520130Steven –
"What are you wrapping the leukotape on? And how does a redo affect the adhesive?"
Try a pen barrel, or similar. I tried a cut down carbon fiber arrow shaft and found the ends splinter – they can add injury to insult. Also, whatever you use, it has to be big enough to hold onto. Leuko is tenacious, and pulling it off something to small is really tough.
As for re-do on the adhesive, I had no problems the first time around on a 11 day JMT in early July. It was hot then. Last week I used it again and found it pretty well baked, with the adhesive starting to de-bond. So, good for a warm trip or two, but needs to be checked (or chucked) after that, IMO.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07 am #1520323I made a small roll, but finally settled on wrapping the leukotape lengthwise around my blood donor card. Packs really flat and seemed easier to pull off a length.
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:22 pm #1520341no extra pair of lenses?
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:35 pm #1520343I carry a spare (it my clean up kit), and have a fresh pair shipped in my MTR resupply.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm #1520372Is 1 oz of Sunblock enough for the JMT
I just spent 5 days with the same length of Leukotape on my feet, stuck on with Tincture of Benzoin. I was surprised how long it stayed on, so you may not need to bring as much extra tape as you might think.
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:16 pm #1520456I'll start with one ounce which has typically been more than enough for a week and have another ounce included in my MTR resupply.
Aug 13, 2009 at 7:06 am #1520513Steve – this looks like a real good gear list to me. What is your base load weight ? Steve
Aug 13, 2009 at 5:05 pm #1520692I don't know how much it weighs…yet. I've never carried this exact list, the closest trip to this weighed in at about 15 lbs, so that is my current guesstimate.
I'll be tossing it all together this weekend and making the final tweaks. I'll post an actual (to the pound, no digital scale) weight then.
Aug 13, 2009 at 5:29 pm #1520705Curious to know what that Mchale weighs?
Aug 14, 2009 at 4:45 pm #1520965My pack weighs 3.8 lbs.
Aug 14, 2009 at 4:48 pm #1520967Looking forward to your weight list. I think the pack would be the first thing to question if only because I think you are going to be quite light given your posted list.
Aug 14, 2009 at 8:15 pm #1521011Yes, I could shave 2 or more lbs from my load with a different pack. Been there. The load carrying ability of the frame and harness offer me comfort that I find more than offset the savings for anything more than a weekend trek.
For the most part given the feedback so far the list will change little, maybe with the exception of the thermal long johns which if the "10 day" suggests stable weather I'll leave behind.
A future upgrade for me may include a top bag or quilt which would probably suffice and save a pound vs. the WM Apache.
Still I like throwing the list out there, it changes a bit trek to trek, and I always get a few ideas that help me reduce just a bit more than I though about myself.
thanks, Steve
Aug 14, 2009 at 10:13 pm #1521030"I dropped the rain jacket a couple years ago along with a tent when I remembered how as a Boy Scout I used to get along quite well without both."
Hmm… I have seen Boy Scouts groups this year. Nothing has changed. Same 50 lbs pounds "everything but the kitchen sink" philosophy.
Maybe you were one of the advanced 'scouts. Used matches as logs to cross the sream and fire all night long in lieu of bear boxes.
No, scouts are stil being traditional. Not even a glimpse of UL.
Aug 14, 2009 at 10:19 pm #1521031"Curious to know what that Mchale weighs?"
No mystery here, 195 lbs at 6'2' height.
Aug 14, 2009 at 10:29 pm #1521035I thought he was lighter than that…..
Aug 15, 2009 at 7:05 am #1521059""I dropped the rain jacket a couple years ago along with a tent when I remembered how as a Boy Scout I used to get along quite well without both."
Hmm… I have seen Boy Scouts groups this year. Nothing has changed. Same 50 lbs pounds "everything but the kitchen sink" philosophy.
Maybe you were one of the advanced 'scouts. Used matches as logs to cross the sream and fire all night long in lieu of bear boxes.
No, scouts are stil being traditional. Not even a glimpse of UL."
Well today yes. But 40 years ago I carried little more than a poncho, sleeping bag, a strip of ensolite, warm jacket, and sock cap. It was after my scouting experienced that I added the myriad 20+ lbs "necessities" to make my hikes more comfortable. I finally "wised up" after lugging 75 lbs along the CDT through the Weminuche and realized I was actually less comfortable with that load than as a Scout.
Aug 16, 2009 at 5:36 pm #1521292Steven, loaded up the pack today. In answer to your question my base weight is 16.3 lbs, includes everything on the list. (a skosh over 15 lbs. if I don't count the stove fuel)
Aug 21, 2009 at 3:29 am #1522238G'day everyone from me [ in Australia ], and my first posting on BPL, so again Hi from Downunder. I am planning for the JMT next year [ August – Sept ] so your gear list is most useful, thanks Steven.
I can translate most of your items into Oz-type language. For example I guess Advil is an aspirin/paracetamol product?
Altitude is something we don't have where I live so I would be interested in comments on how folks prepare for high altitudes. Headaches?
Cheers, PJayAug 21, 2009 at 8:16 am #1522260Advil = ibuprofen
Dramamine = Meclazine HCLRegarding altitude I live in Phoenix at 1200ft so altitude is a problem for me if I don't sustain my aerobic ocnditioning. I press it hard, sustaining 160pbm for at least 30m per workout, 4x per week. With this it takes me about 3 days before I feel "strong" at elevation and other than sucking wind for a couple days have no ill affects.
However, elevation response is highly individual. I have a friend who is in similar condition and going above 10k on the first day darn near kills him. The compromise is to spend a night or two at the highest nearby elevation. For instance, if hiking up from Whitney Portal we'd stay the night before at Cottonwood (a nearby trailhead/camping area) that is a bit higher than the Whitney Portal. That seems to help him.
Aug 21, 2009 at 5:47 pm #1522368Thanks for that info. on meds. It must be an advantage to live at 3-4000ft. I am doing my homeword on altitude sickness and will take appropriate steps to avoid it if possible. As you say it is a highly individual thing, a bit like sea-sickness. You're OK one day and lousy the next. My plan [ from eight thousand miles away ] is to acclimatise by spending a couple of days at least at altitude [perhaps Toluomne Meadows ] before pushing on…
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